ArchiCAD 11

[Anonymous]

ArchiCAD 11 will come soon (as much as I suspect..)
What can AC 11 do better than AC10?

[March_ Bruce]

Hi Brad,
You make me laugh (in a good way esp Gehry reference) and I would agree that since December the bugs have been few - unfortunately that was 6 months after GS was promising a working Intel version - obviously you were smarter than I in not trusting or believing the ship & tell marketing hype waiting to make the transition...

But you really don't want to get me going on (winder) stairs - another absolute basic as you say, do you...?

If we all squeek our wheels & vote with our wallets then perhaps the bean counters may take note ? ! ?
b

[Dwight]

March, wrote:

If we all squeek our wheels & vote with our wallets then perhaps the bean counters may take note ? ! ?
b

You mean - to not upgrade?
Or
to go over to REVIT and complain on their forum.

[Rakela Raul]

to go over to REVIT and complain on their forum

[March_ Bruce]

Hi Dwight,

I enjoyed your book & I would recommend it to anyone wanting to maximize the quality out of the greatly improved rendering speed & capabilities - this was indeed one of the very real recent upgrades along with finally some flexibility & information on the logic of the pen settings...

As you yourself point out there are greyed out menus & only partial feature implementation on the Lightworks side & GS has been working to align the traditional & LW material coordination - I haven't mentioned this because it is a truly new feature, still in progress & not something so basic as slab edge material selection...

[Dwight]

Please understand that i share your complaints about poor feature implementation.

Especially LightWorks, where all the marketers want is to say is that Archicad has LightWorks. Who cares if it was LightWorks from ten years ago? Typical derision.

My point is that the only valid actions if you don't like Archicad as it is are:
not to upgrade and suffer the lack of exciting, new, partly-implemented features
or
go to the dark side.

[March_ Bruce]

I still cling to hope as a user from the pre pee cee days (4.1) by trying to identify what seem the most basic & glaring wishlist items I could use every day or that have undermined large past investments ie objects, pmk support & slab edge material selection which ironically would seem to affect the rendering upgrade...

I have unfortunately reached the point of getting a demo set of night goggles...

[SeaGeoff]

Bruce wrote:
If we all squeek our wheels & vote with our wallets then perhaps the bean counters may take note ?

Dwight wrote:
...the only valid actions if you don't like Archicad as it is are:
not to upgrade and suffer the lack of exciting, new, partly-implemented features
or
go to the dark side.

While I share y'all's frustration with the neglect of basics (stairs, composite clean-up in S/E...) I do hope your conclusions are wrong. Hurting Graphisoft financially does little more than limit all our choices in both the short and long term. I suggest direct communication with your reseller about what you need, stripped of the animus and hyperbole, with a demand that they produce an official reply from Graphisoft.

Bruce wrote:
The online promoters of this software may be the biggest issue with improving it - giving Graphisoft licence to ignore the inconvenient truth...

I really hope you're not saying what I think you're saying here, Bruce. ArchiCAD Talk is populated almost entirely with existing users. Users who spend an inordinate amount o their own time helping others overcome the very weaknesses you complain about, as well as making (often overly) impassioned arguments for change. You can hardly substantiate a claim that there exists a culture of apologizing for Graphisoft's failings.

[Anonymous]

It all comes down to money, anyway. As a new company that just spent $14,000 last year on AC10 for the whole office, spending another $5,000 this year on upgrades just doesnt make any sense given the limited feature set that I have seen in AC11. Give me a stair tool that works, and a window I can rotate in elevaion and we'll talk.

[March_ Bruce]

Shouldn't you expect a stair tool that 'works' for your $14,000?
We are after all on the 10th version (including several 0.5's)...
Sadly but unfortunately true...
:(

[__archiben]

March, wrote:
The online promoters of this software may be the biggest issue with improving it - giving Graphisoft licence to ignore the inconvenient truth...

bruce, mate, what can be said privately cannot be said so publicly on this forum. believe you me, people who you may think to be graphisoft apologists here are making pretty damn sure that the inconvenient truth doesn't go ignored elsewhere.

as geoff said, hurting graphisoft financially is not the solution. we will all suffer. besides, from what i can ascertain there is a general consensus that going to a 12 month release cycle is too short and will prove disruptive, and yet that archicad 11 is "light" on those disruptive features . . . go figure . . .

~/archiben