2008-05-01 04:54 PM
2008-05-07 04:40 PM
Rakela wrote:Seriously? You probably need a rendering engine outside of your AEC software then... for me, I get quality and ease included in the price of my software. No extra cash and no extra tutorials to learn a new program. I need good renders that can accurately display light in order to inform design and communicate to the client. Which I personally think is the major upside of MR in Revit. I hit render on Low settings and after 3 min I can see how light is displaying in a space.
doesnt cut it for me
2008-05-07 04:52 PM
Macbook Pro M1 Max 64GB ram, OS X 10.XX latest
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2008-05-07 05:00 PM
2008-05-07 06:43 PM
ejrolon wrote:Well, with all due respect, just because it doesn't interest you or rank high in your personal list of importance, doesn't necessarily mean that that applies to all ArchiCAD users across the board. Unfortunately in deciding whether or not to improve these tools in their future versions, Graphisoft will inevitably take the path of least resistance in assuming that you speak for the majority (which you don't) and hence justify not investing more in developing these tools or choosing instead to implement them half-baked ala Lightworks sans radiosity as it's currently implemented in ArchiCAD.
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Nope, I'm not interested in that, because depending on the project I use AC's Sketch Render or Lightwork, Artlantis, C4D's Sketch and Toon, Advanced Renderer or Vray. Archicad main purpose is not Rendering, there are specialized applications for that.....
ejrolon wrote:Nobody is advocating switching over to Revit due to the fact that they now have a superior render engine, and certainly not at the cost of their atrocious workflow and typically migraine-inducing dialogbox-happy interface. But by your reasoning ( of the whole "swiss army apps" debate) why bother having Lightworks or even the Sketch render engine at all to begin with. Why even have the traditional internal render engine if visualization should not be an important element of the design process in ArchiCAD? Why not just focus development on enabling ArchiCAD to export clean models to as many applications out there more suited to this whole visualization thing which isn't important by your reasoning, in an architect's design process workflow?
If you consider switching to Revit because it uses Mental Ray and Archicad uses Lightworks then you Might be missing the point, and we start again the debate of the "swiss army apps" vs "one tool for one action" apps.
2008-05-07 06:54 PM
ejrolon wrote:Hm...I'd be willing to bet that you are not the person who pays for your softwares and their updates!
Nope, I'm not interested in that, because depending on the project I use AC's Sketch Render or Lightwork, Artlantis, C4D's Sketch and Toon, Advanced Renderer or Vray. Archicad main purpose is not Rendering, there are specialized applications for that.
2008-05-07 07:30 PM
2008-05-07 07:53 PM
2008-05-07 08:37 PM
Da3dalus wrote:.....firstly, no one is asking for "Perfect" rendering in ArchiCAD. But most are certainly asking for improved rendering capabilities. Graphisoft deliberately integrated a horribly stunted version of Lightworks into their program based solely on the assumption (correctly it would seem) that users would justify having sub-standard tools using reasoning and logic along the lines of "...it's better now than when I began using it in version 4.5" - conveniently forgetting, of course, that between version 4.5 and version 9 or 10 they never bothered to upgrade or improve it - or because others presume that because they don't need it, then everybody else can't possibly need it.
..... "Perfect" rendering is an exercise in diminishing returns, and I don't think it's needed in 95% of architecture firms... indeed, it's not wanted!
2008-05-07 08:41 PM
2008-05-07 08:48 PM
Dwight wrote:LOL
I'll hold him. You punch.
You can have the laptop. I'll take the wallet.