2014-05-06 03:44 PM
2014-05-11 03:10 PM
mkopecky wrote:Thanks for this. Hope you don't mind but I have reposted here...
To have multiple design and/or phase options with extra layers, create a Planned Filter option, duplicate it and rename it to Planned Filter Option 2 (or Phase 2), duplicate and rename as many as you want.
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Pretty nice feature but not well documented.
2014-05-11 09:26 PM
Likewise with design options -- an element may need to be present in multiple options, whereas at the moment, it can only be visible exclusively in one.But you can "unpin" these particular elements (from renovation filter), and then they will show across all the different design options - No?
2014-05-11 10:42 PM
2014-05-12 11:19 PM
2014-05-13 02:12 AM
Stephen wrote:No. BIMx has its own separate render engine as now.
With the introduction of C4D, does this mean bimx files/models will benefit as well?
2014-05-13 03:58 AM
peter_h wrote:On the topic of the Renovation Filter although I think it is great for certain use cases it is also another of those (admittedly rare) cases where i think they could have looked at what the competition was doing and come up with a better (more flexible and powerful) solution. Anyone familiar with the power of Revits Filters will understand:
I have to disagree. IMO, this is another example of one GS's good ideas crippled by its bad habit of not following though and finishing things properly to make them REALLY useful (Take the Selections palette as a classic example).
The "pin" you refer to is the "Show on this renovation filter ONLY" button. Which means that a "pinned" element can ONLY be shown visible in ONE filter ONLY. It's a very inflexible one-to-one relationship. As an example of why this doesn't work, take the "building phases" example: phase 3 needs to include elements that have been "previously built" in phase 2 and phase 1. With the "pin button" used as you described, an element can only exist in one phase.
Likewise with design options -- an element may need to be present in multiple options, whereas at the moment, it can only be visible exclusively in one.
A the very least, it would have been way more useful if GS had changed this button to "Exclude selected element(s) from this filter" rather than "Show only on this filter". In which case the button could have been used to successfully implement phasing and design options (though it still feels like a work-around solution, compared to being able to add your own custom "tags").
As it stands, yet more frickin layers have to be added to the project -- including updating all your layer combinations -- a really 1990s solution, IMHO.
peter_h wrote:above would sort this too, but you can sort-of do this already if you are willing to do a little GDL scripting. We have developed labels that change their content/appearance dependent on the drawing type as assigned in the Model View Options (drawing type is another custom parameter added in our in-house Library Globals script).
As you can guess, I'm a big fan of the dream of adding custom tags to elements and implementing tag filters to define their visibility on any view. I think this should programmatically be an easy feature for GS to add, and would MASSIVELY simplify the current layer mess we have decended into. The more you think about it, the more you realise its potential, and wonder why on earth this wasn't a priority ten versions ago.
2014-05-13 03:33 PM
Dan wrote:You can make as many renovation filters as you want. Name them Option A, Option B, etc then activate Option A filter, select any of the elements that are only part of Option A and click the show on current renovation filter only button. Then once you decide on an Option you can find and select only those elements and reset them back to show on all relevant filters. You do need to get a bit creative if you have some things that are part of say A & C but not B but it is much easier to control than all the crazy layers and better in the long run than multiple stories for Options due to view management.
I too had really been hoping that Graphisoft would include some kind of Phasing or Design Options Filter. I would have thought all this really requires is an extension of the Renovation Filter (which I think is a great tool) - so as well as current Existing, Demolition, Proposed filters, you could have Proposed Option A, Option B etc.....Currently design options have to be modelled either by having duplicate models (a pain), or overly complex layer combinations (also a pain)
2014-05-13 04:26 PM
kevin wrote:Why could not this be implemented as a hotfix ...
Now if we could just get the composite skins too...
2014-05-13 06:18 PM
Dan wrote:I agree completely.
And why still no update to the Renovation Tool so you can set the renovation status of individual skins in composites - currently there is no (easy) way to add say a new external insulation layer to an existing wall, which is a pretty common requirement now for retrofit / refurb. works.
As a small architectural practice doing mainly residential works (ArchiCAD SOLO user), to be honest these kinds on basic productivity improvements would be much more beneficial to me than the integrated C4D Rendering (probably won't come with SOLO Version anyway?), or BIMServer Cloud, but maybe I am not Graphisoft's target customer anymore.
2014-05-14 03:24 AM