This week I upgraded one of my dongles to AC 12, only one! For the majority of my last 15 years of using AC, I have used it on upper bracket residential projects. During that time I have purchased numerous 3rd party libraries for windows, doors, and furniture....because the AC library has had the same pieces of _ _ _ _ for the last 2000 years!!!
This while applications for significantly less money, mostly on the PC side - darn-it, have had features like cabinets that heal themselves when arranged in the plan, windows that actually don't have trim problems and are based on real US manufacturers, doors that don't have trim problems and are based on real US manufacturers, furniture that doesn't look like a kid with a crayon drew them, extrusions, lathes, and sweeps that can be rotated and adjust in 3D, like Objective can do. Obviously the objects should be location friendly, I don't mean to suggest every country should adopt the US objects as standard.....OK, done being politically correct.
I have personally been told by the GS CEO when v9 was out, that by issuance of v11 there would be a "new" and well sorted out library that would be "thoroughly" tested. BS.....I have v12, and I found problems with the windows after working with them less than 5 minutes.....see the attached image, so you know I'm not blowing smoke.
What the heck does it take for GS to build a decent library? Let me tell you, I will have to go kicking and screaming to Revit, but if thats what it takes to access a decent library, I will consider it. Currently you can't access anything on the Google 3D warehouse directly into AC12, and there is NO indication from GS when we will see the plug-in again, if at all. And if your on the Mac side, forget it, you don't have a prayer as the plug-in only worked on the Windows side of AC.
Obviously, if I have stuck with this program since v4.1 I think it is reasonably good. What I find inexcusable is GS willingness to keep putting out lousy standard library sets. In the world of BIM and Photorealistic renderings, GS should be providing a solid realistic library set.....they are not even close!!!!!
I have forwarded the bug to GS through tech support. I am shocked I found the bugs with the windows in less than 5 minutes of using the AC12. God knows what I will find when I dig in further with the doors.
For what I just spent on an upgrade, I am absolutely torqued at how lacking this library still is. The truth is, even 3rd party libraries are very limited - they hardly exist. Clearly GS has not been successful in getting buy-in from US manufacturers to create libraries the way AutoDesk has with Revit. While there are some very generous users out there that give away some very good objects ( THANK YOU TO ALL OF YOU ) the majority of GDL objects available just are not realistic looking or don't stay current with AC.
I have suggested this before, and I will say it again. GS there are some really smart, good GDL gurus out there. Get off your wallet and hire these people to ONLY design objects or work with manufacturers of real Plumbing Fixtures, Light Fixtures, Doors, Windows, Furniture, etc....and pay them to test the objects thoroughly. I'm guessing a 1 million dollar investment in the libraries would yield something far superior to what you provide now....I guess 50 dollars might do that as well
.....hey Mr. Gallello - you getting any of this?
Chris wrote:Ooh, that sounds interesting! You must be with Bite, as we haven't got anything like that from Applecore.
There is an object out there called modular joinery and is distributed as part of the UK UAS. It does a lot of the stuff talked about above, and does it very slickly too.
Shame.sdb wrote:Take a risk.
Any ideas how to solve this problem?
Build a demo version, and either go over to the company and demo it in person, or use a webcast type of presentation where they can see your desktop live to show the sort of things it can do. Show some other cool things you have done. Say you will plaster links to their website all over the user interface for easy ordering. Give them a reasonable price for doing a fully featured version.
If they still don't bite, sell it on your site anyway!
Peter wrote:Peter, the Modular Joinery object is Ralph Wessel's "Velfac" window as reported at the Archicad Summer School in Nottingham this year.Chris wrote:Ooh, that sounds interesting! You must be with Bite, as we haven't got anything like that from Applecore.
There is an object out there called modular joinery and is distributed as part of the UK UAS. It does a lot of the stuff talked about above, and does it very slickly too.
Google for Wessel Velfac and you'll find the report. I hear it's paid for by Graphisoft UK and distributed to subscribers.
Alas, I haven't been able to obtain it myself. It may be in bug testing yet, though.
Thomas wrote:Testing was completed in October and it has been approved for release to UK subscribers. Graphisoft UK has been quite proactive in identifying frequently requested objects and trying to meet that demand. Anyone interested in getting hold of it should ask their reseller to contact GS UK.
Peter, the Modular Joinery object is Ralph Wessel's "Velfac" window as reported at the Archicad Summer School in Nottingham this year.
Google for Wessel Velfac and you'll find the report. I hear it's paid for by Graphisoft UK and distributed to subscribers.
Alas, I haven't been able to obtain it myself. It may be in bug testing yet, though.
The object itself is able to produce almost any arrangement of doors, windows, panels, louvres, etc, including varying frames, mullions, and sashes within a single object. Panes, panels, and louvres can be freely configured in each window/door leaf too. Some images are attached, one showing the 3D view of my test project. Each example is a single instance of the Modular Joinery object, including the curtain wall to the rear.
The name 'Velfac' isn't used because it provides an interface to select products from any number of manufacturers. Some Velfac products are included, and others may follow in future as need/demand arises.
Still looking?
