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2006-06-26 02:56 AM
2006-08-22 09:13 AM
Miki wrote:That's one side of the equation. The other is all the AutoCAD users who are so fed up with Autodesk that they are saying, "If we're making the switch to BIM anyway, why don't we look around?"
One thing that amazes me is how AutoCad guys are committed to Autodesk.
2006-08-22 09:31 AM
2006-08-22 03:07 PM
Miki wrote:It's the devil you know... so while they're switching platforms (scary enough) they know they have something resembling a support system (resellers, for what they're worth -- mileage varies). So switching platforms AND companies at once is pretty scary for the usually conservative design community. They're not so much committed as shackled!
One thing that amazes me is how AutoCad guys are committed to Autodesk. They want to switch to BIM software so they don't even look around but go for Revit, even though that Revit is far more different from AutoCad than other BIM packages (AC, ARC+, TriForma). This is amazing considering that they did not wanted to switch to BIM before because of those differences. Even communication between Revit and Autocad <b>[censored]</b>. Is it real commitment or pure marketing magic ?
2006-08-22 06:02 PM
metanoia wrote:Sorry, Wes - WHAT do you know about the devil? Completely twisted logic. I drive a Daewoo. It is now rebadged Chevrolet. So if I buy a Corvette (I am entitled to! Midlife crisis!
It's the devil you know... so while they're switching platforms (scary enough) they know they have something resembling a support system (resellers, for what they're worth -- mileage varies). So switching platforms AND companies at once is pretty scary for the usually conservative design community. They're not so much committed as shackled!
2006-08-22 08:25 PM
2006-08-22 08:40 PM
2006-08-22 09:43 PM
Djordje wrote:I know the devil quite well -- and my posts have gotten me some slapping around by the devil himself, thank you very much. You think I toe the Autodesk line? Not hardly, mate!
Sorry, Wes - WHAT do you know about the devil? Completely twisted logic.
2006-08-22 10:06 PM
Laura wrote:Care to elaborate?
...and found AC superior for a number of reasons...
2006-08-22 10:21 PM
Scott wrote:
Care to elaborate?
Laura wrote:from this thread...
I originally worked with AC back in '92 - '93 and loved it -- moved back to the mainland (from Hawaii), and everything here in Denver was AutoCAD. The firm I worked for in 2002 was looking to transition to ADT, and I knew that even the AC of 10 years prior made ADT out to be a joke. Of course, the idea of changing CAD software fell on deaf ears.
A group at the firm I'm with now had a similar experience when presenting AC to the partners at about the same time. Then AutoDesk purchased Revit and "BIM" became mainstream...
I was given the task of evaluating BIM software at the beginning of 2005, and it soon became clear the choice was between AC(9) and Revit(7). We ultimately chose AC because:
1) AC had over 4x the market history as Revit, and there was simply more information available: third party applications, object libraries, tutorials, external support systems and publications.
2) Interoperability
3) Teamwork
4) The Lightworks rendering engine
5) We felt AC far more flexible, without Revit's "enforced associations between elements" and automatic updating
6) Not having to deal with AutoDesk
7) Of lesser importance, but still considered: National CAD Standard compliance, plug-in for SketchUp and the fact that AC is cross-platform
Now, a year-and-a-half later, Revit has made significant progress (although, I'm not sure I'd want to manage a system that upgrades every 6 months), but I still feel AC superior. I believe the competition in the marketplace is doing AC (and us) much good, and eventually the two systems will be comparable. So... it really comes down to which software you're the most comfortable with...
2006-08-23 05:56 AM
Laura wrote:Around here, plain AutoCAD costs more than Archicad. Revit Building (bundled AutoCAD 2007 and Revit 9) costs about 30 US$more.
I believe there is some sort of promotion going on where if a firm upgrades their AutoCAD, they can receive Revit at a significantly reduced price...