How can I turn a valve in Archicad 29 or MEP Designer?

[lopezfigueroa]

I installed the new version of ArchiCAD 29, including MEP Designer, and I couldn't rotate the valves in either version.....
Is it possible or not?

Operating system used: Windows 3000

[Gabor Szelei]

This was for me Barry.
This is not hate.
The only thing that is strange to me is that if someone designs MEP, why doesn't they do it with a program specifically for that? And why does Graphisof have to devote resources to MEP when Archicad is declared to be an architectural software. Even the useless thing that is much more important than this is whether I can adjust the handle of the kitchen cabinet... Not to mention the structural design nightmare 😉

If the many important things that would help ARCHITECT design had been solved, which we have been asking for for years, I wouldn't say a word, but I still feel a lot of lack with the latest version.

Gábor

[Barry Kelly]

It seems to be reading that value from the pipe.

In a horizontal pipe it is 0° (with options available - but it won't change).

In a vertical pipe it is 90° (with no other options - but it still won't change if you type another angle).

If you select the valve settings before you place it. this rotation angle is greyed out.

That makes me think it is getting the value from the pipe.

I see no way to rotate the pipe though (around it cross section).

Barry.

[strangeday]

HI @Barry Kelly, you're right, the parameter, and the ability to modify it, change as the tube's inclination varies.

But at this point, why make the rotation option available if it's not editable?

I still think it's a bug, or at least that even after three versions, the MEP elements haven't been fully adapted to the new MEP 2.0 system, keep in mind that with the old MEP, this parameter worked perfectly with the option to choose rotation around the tube's axis.

[lopezfigueroa]

The valve can't be rotated around the pipe axis... This is a nuisance because if you have to place the pipe under a slab or ceiling, the valve should be positioned at 180°, otherwise, the valve will collide.
The ArchiCAD 29 presentation is very nice, but these details are what ruin the entire marketing effort.
I really hoped this detail would be ready for launch.

[marcoariveross]

This worked "fine" in the preview; it was the first thing I tried...now it's disappointing that it was in the release. It was manual, but at least you could. What did they do?...  😩🤡

[Barry Kelly]

If this work in the tech preview (or beta) but not in the final release, then be sure to report it to your local support.

Barry.

[JohnR]

rethat’s what I do…then save it as an object in needed regularly. Another option is to bring it into modelport and make adjustments there.

[JohnR]

Save it as an mep part, not object.

[Barry Kelly]

But you would need to script it as a MEP part if you want all of the MEP functionality.

Barry.

[mthd]

That is a good work around for those that use modelport. Or save it as a MEP part as you suggested below.

Still we all should be able to natively rotate any element or object in the vertical plane with Archicad. I do have CI tools Objective as part of my deal. I needed to use it to rotate a mini orb metal sheet that I downloaded off the internet that was used in lining a raked ceiling plane.