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How can I turn a valve in Archicad 29 or MEP Designer?

lopezfigueroa
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I installed the new version of ArchiCAD 29, including MEP Designer, and I couldn't rotate the valves in either version.....
Is it possible or not?

 

 

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Operating system used: Windows 3000

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Gabor Szelei
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This is a terribly important question in an ARCHITECT design program... 😉

 

I apologize...

 

Gábor

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Barry Kelly
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Are you trying to rotate the position of the inlet and outlet?

In which case, isn't that to do with the path of the route (pipes).

 

Or are you trying to rotate the handle on top?

If so why?

What difference will that make?

 

Barry.

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I don’t get the hate. It’s a question about the new MEP functionalities of 2025 releases.

 

for Barry: he is probably trying to achieve the former. When pipes are mounted on a wall, the valves are turned towards the user.

 

this is the Wikipedia picture for valve. This is probably what he s trying to achieve.

 

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 To try to answer the question, probably you need to create a duplicate of the valve object and add your own custom functionality to it.

 

 

mthd
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You are getting a rotating handle in the horizontal plane. And you are not getting one in the vertical plane, is that right ? If so here is an older training video about the free rotate tool. I am not sure if this is applicable with connected MEP objects but worth a try if you can find the tool if it still exists that is ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ObpIFkgoN_0

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@Claudiu Serban wrote:

I don’t get the hate. It’s a question about the new MEP functionalities of 2025 releases.

 

for Barry: he is probably trying to achieve the former. When pipes are mounted on a wall, the valves are turned towards the user.

 

this is the Wikipedia picture for valve. This is probably what he s trying to achieve.

 

ClaudiuSerban_0-1759866753399.jpeg

 To try to answer the question, probably you need to create a duplicate of the valve object and add your own custom functionality to it.

 

 


Sorry, no hate.

Just trying to work out what the original poster was trying to do.

For some reason I completely missed the red arrow indicating that the whole valve needed to be rotated vertically.

I was looking at it as rotating just the valve handle.

 

As the valve is an object, it appears that it can only be rotated in the horizontal plane.

No matter what angle the pipe is at (horizontal, vertical or sloping), the valve will only rotate horizontally.

 

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I don't see any options in the valve to rotate any other way.

Maybe someone more familiar with MEP design can answer this.

 

Barry.

 

 

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Can a MEP valve be converted to a morph and then rotated in the vertical plane ?

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Sure, but it will no longer be a MEP valve.

 

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mthd
Virtuoso

Found this resource below about rotating elements and objects. This might help to show what can be and what can’t be done. 

 

https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Getting-started/Rotate-Elements-in-3D/ta-p/303889

 

We should certainly be able to rotate objects in the vertical plane by now, without having to resort to converting them to morphs or purchasing other expensive add on tools. 

 

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strangeday
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Hello @lopezfigueroa, it seems to me a bug, infact if you choose the rotation inside object parameter window, the rotation is permitted at at pre-established angles(0°,90°,180° and 270°), and also the preview reflect this modification, but if you click ok nothing changes.....

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probably someone at GS could give us more information about this

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