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Rubia Torres
The way you are 'meant' and trained to use Archicad according to Graphisoft is to do a reasonable 3d model using composites etc, project elevations and sections, and then rely mainly on patches and 2d lines to create the 1:20 sections and details. Who does this?
I've heard of firms adding nearly all of their construction detail to the 3d model itself creating much of the information that will end up in the details and sections automatically. This must be a good way to get accurate cost schedules from Archicad I would guess. But this must be really time consuming. Who does this way? Doesnt it make the model really slow and difficult to read? I suppose your layering conventions have to be spot on for this.
Does anyone create an Archicad 3d model just purely for aesthetic visuals and rely on Autocad or 2d Archicad for everything else?
Who here just uses 3d Archicad for the plans to enable doors and windows to be inserted and then does everything else in 2d?
Does anyone go the whole hog and use Archicad as a proper BIM model for heating calcs, daylighting, scheduling, as well as generated elevs/sections/details etc?
I would really appreciate hearing everyones views on this. Can a moderator make this poll sticky for a few days please?
nats wrote:I'm going insane with the number of times you use this phrase, Nats!
... I can see you have embelished them quite a bit with 2d work - the standard Graphisoft working method.
Can you show me in a user manual PDF or somewhere where GS says that 2D embelishment is the 'standard working method'?Karl
Ralph, beautiful drawings. 
Might yet convince me to go full bore towards the switch to AC. I started, ever so briefly, and stopped.
Karl, Rakela, Laura, Ralph: I haven't seen beautiful drawings for documents that were ever this detailed (as Ralph's) and generated from the AC model. Primarily because most of the examples in the books are modern masterpieces lacking the finer detailing of a 100- to 200-year old stately manor; yet it is this type of architecture that I think would be very convincing to small practitioners, like myself, who work on restorations and who are thinking about making the conversion from non-AC or hand-drawing.
Are there anymore samples like these available. Boy, it is this kind of visual stimulus that was missing when I started in 7.
Very interesting. Thanks.
Might yet convince me to go full bore towards the switch to AC. I started, ever so briefly, and stopped.
Karl, Rakela, Laura, Ralph: I haven't seen beautiful drawings for documents that were ever this detailed (as Ralph's) and generated from the AC model. Primarily because most of the examples in the books are modern masterpieces lacking the finer detailing of a 100- to 200-year old stately manor; yet it is this type of architecture that I think would be very convincing to small practitioners, like myself, who work on restorations and who are thinking about making the conversion from non-AC or hand-drawing.
Are there anymore samples like these available. Boy, it is this kind of visual stimulus that was missing when I started in 7.
Very interesting. Thanks.
Karl wrote:Well this is how we are being taught to do it during our seminars in the office by our Archicad reseller.nats wrote:I'm going insane with the number of times you use this phrase, Nats!
... I can see you have embelished them quite a bit with 2d work - the standard Graphisoft working method.
Karl
Obviously from the poll it seems that quite a lot of other people use this 2d embellishment method as well.
I would say that the very fact that Archicad has been provided with quite a few tools geared to 2d drafting (especially r11), and that it is presently difficult in the vanilla program to model custom objects, non standard stairs, unusual roofs, site roads, kerbs, mouldings, etc without lots of experience, training and/or programming knowledge seems to suggest that Graphisoft know this.
If Graphisoft were truly serious that the 3d model is everything and want Archicad to head the way in proper BIM modelling why did they introduce the new 2d drafting tools in r11? Instead of this why didnt they include a really easy custom object modeller utility etc? This is what I want to see. Maybe you are angry at the direction the program is taking and you should be expressing this to Graphisoft.
Its hardly my fault that I am using the program to do 2d drawings when the facility is there, its easier, and its the way I know through my previous Autocad knowledge!
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