Missing 2D elements in Door, Again

[Anonymous]

I am again having a Display problem. I have a ATI 9600 with the latest Driver.

I was having a similar problem with AC8.1 http://archicad-talk.graphisoft.com/viewtopic.php?p=21407&highlight=#21407

And now with AC9. The doors shown is the screen shot are all from the AC9 Library.

This behavior appears after working sometime in AC. I have not "pinned-down" what I may be doing to cause this.

On the next message I will post a screen shot of the same doors after saving the file and re-opening. Trim is now appearing again.

[Anonymous]

I am having a problem with the doors not showing graphically in the 2d mode. I'm specifically using the D1 Interior Door (and have tried various styles under this category). I have tried changing various settings. The setting is at Detailed. I changed the options to detailed, after trying scale sensitive, simple..... I have also changed my drawing scale (from 1/4" to 1/2" to 1/8"....) and still nothing.

In the plan view on the door settings dialogue box it shows correctly with the swing. When I go to the 3D mode I see the door. I've tried opening brand new files using the default settings and the same thing happens. I've even tried restarting ArchiCAD and again the doors are not showing correctly in the floorplan view.

This was not happening to me three days ago. When I go back to that file (from 3 days ago) the doors show correctly. However if I create a new file with the default settings, for some reason the doors are not showing. All I get is an opening in the wall.

What's going on?

[Anonymous]

This is most likely due to how the display Settings are currently set. See Attachment. You most likely are using a Display Option Combination that has the Door & Window Output set to "Hide On Plan" or "Reflective Ceiling".

Remember, your view sets all have a assigned Display Option. You may have to Redefine your view sets.

[Anonymous]

This was a problem with us too, and then it stopped... and now is back. I think I'm using (almost) the latest libraries. Has anybody had any answer/solution to this one yet? I have problems with it with both doors and windows, and it gets really problematic because I like to show the door trim for those contractors that forget about them (and clearances, and...).

So, anybody know of any solutions/answers yet?

[Anonymous]

Sergio,
I was recently directed to download and try the ArchiCAD 9 Special Edition Library. The scale problem seems to have been more extensively addressed in this library. I don't know if the Special Edition Library will solve your problem but it might be worth looking at.

You can get to the download page for the Special Edition Library from the ArchiCAD 9 Help menu: Help/Check For Latest Library or go directly to the website at : http://www.graphisoft.com/support/archicad/downloads/library_updates/USA.html

I hope this helps.
Aloha,
John

[Anonymous]

I have not seen much "nah-say" discussion on the Special Edition Library, but I think that the release of a Library that does not work with Existing Projects is Unacceptable. I would not use the Special Edition Library.

Also If you start using this Library for all new projects, will these projects convert over smoothly to AC 10 and the associated Object library PLA.

And if the conversion is "smooth" from the Special Edition Library, does that mean that us that have stayed with the "default" Object Library for AC 9, will then be "forced" update all our "old" projects manually to the new AC 10 Library.

Hoping the Library Transition from AC 9 to AC 10 works as smoothly as AC 8.1 to AC9. So I am a little leary of using the AC 9 Special Edition Library.

[Anonymous]

Jay,
It looks like there were some problems with the original Special Edition Library. Now there is a new release of the Special Edition library that has the textures and other attributes separated so that the Special Edition Library can be loaded at the same time as the standard ArchiCAD 9 library.

The web page that I listed above has the following message:

ArchiCAD 9 Special Edition Library Update
The Special Edition library contains many new features and enhancements compared to the ArchiCAD 9 US Library, including brand new doors, windows and other objects. The updated version includes the correction of inconsistencies found in the first release and it's fully compatible with the original SE library. Note that the AC9 objects in your existing projects will not be replaced with the SE library elements since their Globally Unique ID (GUID) and name is different.

This only addresses part of your concerns--maybe. I would like to see someone more knowledgeable about the Special Edition library chime in on your concerns.

Aloha,
John

[Karl Ottenstein]

Jay wrote:
I have not seen much "nah-say" discussion on the Special Edition Library, but I think that the release of a Library that does not work with Existing Projects is Unacceptable. I would not use the Special Edition Library.

Jay: use the new SE 9 library. Graphisoft has not done a great job of communicating with the US user community about this library, which they have invested quite a bit of effort into improving.

[This is a US library.]

This library replaces the prior SE library and can be loaded alongside the existing 9 library, or even 8.1 or earlier. It is the library you should migrate into and has many new features and bug fixes, documented in the extensive PDF manuals (a lot to read!). There are still a few bugs, but it is superior to the standard 9 library IMHO.

Any library parts that were used from the first release of SE will automatically reference the appropriate parts in the new SE9 release.

Also If you start using this Library for all new projects, will these projects convert over smoothly to AC 10 and the associated Object library PLA.

Yes, the SE9 library may be thought of as the pre-10 library. The US AC 10 library will simply be the evolution of this library.

And if the conversion is "smooth" from the Special Edition Library, does that mean that us that have stayed with the "default" Object Library for AC 9, will then be "forced" update all our "old" projects manually to the new AC 10 Library.

No more so than when you moved from 8.1 to 9. If you want to continue to use old library parts and not take advantage of new features and bug fixes, that is a choice.

The improvements to 2D and 3D representation with the new doors and windows ... and the fact that doors/windows now support separate materials for interior/exterior (we finally have cladding!) ... are enough to want to choose those parts in the future.

Hoping the Library Transition from AC 9 to AC 10 works as smoothly as AC 8.1 to AC9. So I am a little leary of using the AC 9 Special Edition Library.

No reason whatsoever to be leary. It behaves as all other libraries did and do, and it is what the AC 10 library (US version) will be based on, so it is your first step to conversion.

Cheers,
Karl

[Anonymous]

Karl wrote:
... use the new SE 9 library. Graphisoft has not done a great job of communicating with the US user community about this library, which they have invested quite a bit of effort into improving.

This is encouraging finally. The only think that _I_ still need clarifications on, is on what the difference between the 9_US and 9_SE is. Why are there two separate ones, and which one should be used? They seem to have the same blocks in both libraries and I think that's the confusing part, at least for me. I'd much rather have less blocks loaded up than 10 full libraries with only a handful of useful blocks, which tend to slow down the computer process power.

[TomWaltz]

Sergio wrote:
This is encouraging finally. The only think that _I_ still need clarifications on, is on what the difference between the 9_US and 9_SE is. Why are there two separate ones, and which one should be used? They seem to have the same blocks in both libraries and I think that's the confusing part, at least for me. I'd much rather have less blocks loaded up than 10 full libraries with only a handful of useful blocks, which tend to slow down the computer process power.

9_SE is a new library with all of the same objects as 9_US, with some dramatic changes to some of them. The 9_SE, like Karl mentioned, is more like a Archicad pre-release 10 library than it is an Archicad 9 library.

The idea is for new projects going forward to use 9_SE, and not load the 9_US library at all. Yes, you CAN load both, but having two 100 MB+ libraries is a bit much.

[Anonymous]

I no longer am "Leary" knowing that Karl is on the Pro (Not Con) SE side of things. I still do not understand though the conversion of Old projects. Lets say I have a project for a Custom Builder that was finished in July 2004 and has the AC 9 (US) Library as the "base" Library. And say I have another project with the new AC 9_SE Library.
If some time in 2006 I am using AC 10 and each of the Projects is to be built on another site, I will be able to open the Projects in AC 10 and use the AC 10 Library?

It looks like I need to spend some time and re-assign all of my many door & window Favorites that I have created to be "Linked" to the AC 9_SE instead of the Standard AC 9 Library. I guess , at least I can set my favorites up to have the "Scale Sensitive" Option now.