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2009-01-17 06:33 PM
2009-01-17 08:59 PM
Richard wrote:......well, not that it's right or anything, but, it's not exactly like Autodesk themselves don't have their fair share of 'funded' surveys and product reviews (see: anything AECbytes, Architectural Record or McGraw-Hill publishing for that matter, and of course, anything by the venerable Lachmi Khemlani (sp?) at AECbytes).
Anyone see this? CAD Survey
From the results, it looks like GS funded this, but I hope not. It should be a nice pat on the back for GS.
EDIT: I just discovered that one of the research company's CLIENTS IS, indeed, Graphisoft, which should be taken into account. Not saying the results are wrong, but it does put a cloud over them.
2009-01-17 09:29 PM
2009-01-18 02:27 AM
I highly doubt we will be seeing any significant change in their product development culture or marketing strategies anytime soon. More a case of, 'more of the same' and 'if it's not broke don't fix ( or improve) it'.AFAIK, this is one of the primary tasks of new 'GS command' and that is the culture change inside of GS itself.
2009-01-18 06:09 AM
Richard wrote:.......Not only are they not mutually exclusive but they are also inextricably cyclically interdependent.
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I'm more interested in seeing a really great product than really great marketing. (Not that they are mutually exclusive, though.) Happy, enthusiastic customers are more likely to sell the product than expensive glossy ads.
2009-01-19 07:34 PM
Bricklyne wrote:SketchUp did pretty well with average marketing and raving fans.
Enthusiastic customers can only take you so far <snip>
2009-01-20 12:10 PM
Richard wrote:......I would beg to differ on that point.Bricklyne wrote:SketchUp did pretty well with average marketing and raving fans.
Enthusiastic customers can only take you so far <snip>
Richard wrote:
I've been paying attention to the enthusiasm level of Revit customers. As it has gotten more complex, the level of militant enthusiasm seems to have dropped off. A few years ago, I used to commonly hear phrases like, "Architecture has become FUN again."
Richard wrote:Sketchup has always been a relatively, or at least comparatively easy program to learn and to use; even with their recent attempted forays into more BIM territories. It's the increasing perception that they (blame Google) are no longer listening to their customers any more or as much that has more to do with the waning interest, as may have been observable from the level of disappointment in version 7 which had a collective number of new features less than the third party plugins and ruby scripts developed by independent coders and Ruby scripters between version 6 and 7 and which genuinely increased productivity far more than anything Google produced in version 7. Revit has always been complex and if anything is less so now that they are starting to adopt more Autodesk-like features, tools and workflows functions (like the Viewcube, fewer dialog-box commands) into the program - again, look to the connection to developer-user interaction trend for user enthusiasm level.
Not so much, anymore. I'm starting to see the enthusiasm waning in SketchUp, too, as the features start to bloat, and the learning curve becomes steeper. I think there is a point at which prospective users start looking for simpler alternatives, like Chief Architect or Envisioneer, where you can get productive in a few days, rather than a few weeks.
2009-01-20 10:17 PM