Renovation Combination Issues

[ares997]

So I am creating a simple section and having issues with the new windows showing up in the existing plan. If I use the stock renovation filter you don't see the windows. Personally this isn't the way I would like to achieve the effect but our leadership is driving the style of the drawings. In any event we are reducing the detail of the wall composites to look either like A style or B style to represent new and old. So I have overridden the fills to be a A or B. This works alright except in sections because everything becomes either A or B including things that are mostly neutral.

Thus does anyone know how to resolve this issue with the windows showing up in views they aren't assigned.

[Anonymous]

This may be a bug I reported to Graphisoft a couple weeks ago.

We were working on a house renovation and putting in new windows. The new windows were showing up on the existing and demolition plans, even though all the settings were correct (they showed as dashed lines, not completely detailed windows). And the to be demolished windows are showing up on our proposed plans. The renovation filter is not working as it should.

[Anonymous]

As a workaround, I found that if you click the window, open the settings, and go to "Tags & Categories", instead of the window being set to "All relevant filters" (which does not work) you can tell the window to show up on the proposed filter (or demo if it is a window to be demolished).

The renovation filter is buggy so you have to actually tell it where to show.

I sent my file to Graphisoft and they confirmed it is a bug. They are working on it. No idea when they will issue a fix.

[ares997]

THANKS for the tip. I have also found that if you are in the plan window with the 'planned' renovation status and go to the 3d view it more often than not reverts to a renovation status that isn't applicable to the work you are assessing.

[Anonymous]

If you just go to the 3D window without using the View Map (which stores all the view settings) the Renovation Filter will be set to whatever it was last time you were in the 3D window.

[ares997]

Thanks for that information.

I guess on some level it makes sense to have the 3D window not be directly connected to the information you are looking at in plan, but on another level you would think that it would "Show Selection in 3D" of the data that has been selected in the 3D window. Sort of defeats parametric modeling if I am only viewing something based on a scenario that I am not observing. It seems like it would make more sense to just show what I was observing in 2d in 3d regardless of the last layer combination. Maybe there is a situation where I would want to see some legacy renovation filter without having the system follow my 2d explorations.

[Anonymous]

It does work contrary to the way layers work, in that the Renovation Filter can be different from one to the other, but the layers are the same if you flick from 2D to 3D window (without using the View Map).

As I mentioned in this thread, it caught me out a few times.

[ares997]

I think that it doesn't just look at your last view settings and use that for 3d. I found that I could be looking at the model for half the day in it's new construction state and if I open up the layout book or do something else it reverts back to the 1st renovation filter in the list. A elevation view that I don't really use that often but have need for it.

[ares997]

Another interesting nuance of the Rennovation Filter is that if you export a filters' settings (xml file) it doesn't import correctly into another file. Kind of makes you work hard to keep standards between projects in line if you are having to recreate the wheel every project.