Speed Issues in 2d w/ AC10

[Anonymous]

Wanted to start a new post and see if any one is having issues with speed in AC10 when working in 2d.

I am considerably slower than AC9.

Having issue with clicking a node and when the object is actually moveable I am actually holding the object not on the node I clicked but 1/2" - 1" away (screen distance). I have to drop the object and pick it up again... This one is way bizarre and linked to the lag thing...

I am having lag between actually clicking an object and being able to move the selected object.

Panning is way laggy using the arrow keys.


The conditions are the same for another workstation in office with an ATI graphics card.

Just generally less smooth drafting in 2D. It feels like it may have something to do with the graphics card but is the same on both my machines.

I also turned off tracker and guidelines to see if it helps but it doesn't seem to affect it.

Dunno.

[__archiben]

g.h.design wrote:
Just generally less smooth drafting in 2D. It feels like it may have something to do with the graphics card but is the same on both my machines.

i think GS have turned off once and for all any graphics card support for 2D window work - it was never really used in previous versions, and was only a benefit when using the terribly sluggish and miserable AC8 on a mac platform.

check your 2D model complexity settings. i normally have mine set to "simplified model" . . .

other than that . . . dunno either . . . i'm finding it an overall improvement over AC9

~/archiben

[Anonymous]

Yeah, I have that turned to the lowest setting.

Dunno...

Oh, and you have never clicked one point and ended up grabbing it at some random point off to the side of the object. That happens to us a few times an hour at least. Both stations. Very consistent and weird.

[__archiben]

g.h.design wrote:
Oh, and you have never clicked one point and ended up grabbing it at some random point off to the side of the object. That happens to us a few times an hour at least. Both stations. Very consistent and weird.

only with beams - their clean up nodes are not necessarily where their placed physical nodes might've been . . . a different condition to yours entirely i think . . .

sorry - i'm out of ideas.
~/archiben

[Rod Jurich]

g.h.design wrote:
Wanted to start a new post and see if any one is having issues with speed in AC10 when working in 2d.

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I am having lag between actually clicking an object and being able to move the selected object.

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I also turned off tracker and guidelines to see if it helps but it doesn't seem to affect it.

Greg, have a look at my post of - Errant select/drag occurance?? + Attachment 27th July.

And before Ben says it's "pilot error" again.

It is not!

Having played a bit with WE Selection & Element Info Prefs, I feel that GS has altered the way the cursor works in selection. I mean now that when many elements are about one another you have to Tab select. This must slow things down some what. A positive trade to be sure you select what it is you want.

(At least now I have my hotspots showing on the wall reference line as well as both end nodes.)

Back to selection/drag as we have it in 9. The ability to click/drag as one has slowed dramatically in 10.

Even with no other elements within striking distance if I try what is normal in 9 I end up too frequently "leaving" said pick up behind.

At my age my son would say I should be slowing down. But with some of these darned new toys that GS has landed us with and which most experienced users have turned off cause me concern when I see this sort of event happening too frequently through the day.

Look forward to your response.

[Anonymous]

Aah, yes. Thank you for the reference to your earlier post.

I looked at your post and it appears to be exactly the same condition as my own. It is not related to the speed with which I try to move the object after selection, as you said, not a piloting error. Also, I agree that the simple act of clicking and dragging has slowed and developed a bit of a stutter from 9 to 10. All I can figure is that it must be related to processes going on behind the scenes related to new selection and guide tools. On or off the process appears to be going on.

I have slowed down to try and let ArchiCAD catch up with me. That is the point I think. I would think that I wouldn't have to. Maybe that is an upgrade. A built in preventative for carpal tunnel syndrome and impatience.

I enjoy the new selection highlighting and ability to tab through objects but I am not enjoying the slowdown in the the thing I do the most in ArchiCAD, clicking and dragging. It is similar to having to wait a few seconds for the steering wheel to respond while driving. Acceptable in a neglected, road weary 1960's detroit dinosaur but in a new 2006... somewhat disorienting.

[Rod Jurich]

g.h.design wrote:
Aah, yes. Thank you for the reference to your earlier post.

I looked at your post and it appears to be exactly the same condition as my own. It is not related to the speed with which I try to move the object after selection, as you said, not a piloting error. Also, I agree that the simple act of clicking and dragging has slowed and developed a bit of a stutter from 9 to 10. All I can figure is that it must be related to processes going on behind the scenes related to new selection and guide tools. On or off the process appears to be going on.

I have slowed down to try and let ArchiCAD catch up with me. That is the point I think. I would think that I wouldn't have to. Maybe that is an upgrade. A built in preventative for carpal tunnel syndrome and impatience.

I enjoy the new selection highlighting and ability to tab through objects but I am not enjoying the slowdown in the the thing I do the most in ArchiCAD, clicking and dragging. It is similar to having to wait a few seconds for the steering wheel to respond while driving. Acceptable in a neglected, road weary 1960's detroit dinosaur but in a new 2006... somewhat disorienting.

Well put Greg, but you are just too polite. The censor would kill me before my real comments left my keyboard.
It was good to see young Ben vent his spleen the other day.
Anyway appreciate that I'm not the only "mushroom".
And please tell us where Bonny Doon Ca is?

[Anonymous]

I have turned of all of the new selection aids and am giving it a go. It appears to have returned things to a more 'normal speed' already I believe. I will work today in this mode and see if the bug of selecting the object in strange place reoccurs.

[Anonymous]

Bonny Doon is just north of Santa Cruz, Ca, USA. Monterey Bay being the most prominent and proximal geographical landmark. South of San Fransisco by a couple hours.
Little oasis of mountains, fog and redwood. Some quite large eucalyptus as well...

I am going to look for the spleen venting...

[Anonymous]

Going to document every area where I notice slowness today.

Dimensioning. Significant delay when clicking on a node to manually dimension a wall w/ windows doors. I click a node and have to wait s....e....v.......e.....r.........a.......l seconds before the dimension point shows on screen and I can move on to the next one. Wanted to add that sometimes (1/4 of the time) the click and placement are essentially instantaneous.