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chitecture_x
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Stairs Landing

Hi All. 
First timer in stair making and YT Videos seem inadequate. 
I want to make a landing on both sides. Is this possible? 

I have attached 2 photos, one with 23 stairs. But want to add a landing to connect it round so i can copy more on upper floors. 
When I activate the pet pallette, and press landing, it adds more stairs. I have turned off auto landing but doesnt work. 

BeforeBefore   After (Trying to add landing to connect to stairs above.)After (Trying to add landing to connect to stairs above.)

 

Operating system used: Windows 11

  

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runxel
Moderator

That's a very valid use case, that's sadly not really well supported.

Something for @James B to have a look at maybe, for further improvement of this tool.

 

In my experience, if you want to end with a landing: the tool does not really want to let you do that. If you draw from the bottom up (so here starting on the left), then it insists on adding a last step, that does not go away, not even when using the trick of adding treads at the bottom: it will only let you add 2 in this example, thus vanishing the landing alltogether:

 

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However, starting from the top and drawing "backwards" achieves this. This is imho a very stupid workaround; but atleast it works.

 

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This stair can now be shaped as intended. I often first lay out the stair roughly and then fine tune, because otherwise the inputs are not really taken in (tight corners etc.)

Also don't get me started on that you can produce wildly different results that only rely on how the element was laid out initially without being to change that later. So yeah, sometimes you just have to redraw the whole thing; sometimes it also gets bugged internally, from which also no recovery is possible.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Kumar Jo
Participant

I was able to get it with default US template, WE and here this what I did. I use TOP (physical top of stair) and BOTTOM (physical bottom of stair) instead of UP and DOWN which sometime confuses with how we set the floor plan display.

1. Draw the stair, the settings are in the screenshot, I turned off the auto landing and locked in the tread depth to 1'. Rest are just default.

2. Stretch the stair (using reference) at the top to the depth of landing required

3. Added a node at the point where the stair reaches in the step 1.

4. Declare the last segment (@top) as landing.

5. Use stretch with reference line option and push back to the the level where it reaches the top floor.

This worked every time with both End w Tread and End w Riser. Also, everything is exactly as said by @runxel .

 

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Barry Kelly
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I would say that the top and bottom landings are actually your floor slabs.

The actual landings are the intermediate 'floors' between flights.

 

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Barry Kelly
Moderator

You can model the stair from the bottom up, but it is easier to go top down and start with the landing.

If you go bottom up, you must not exceed the length of your flight, otherwise you will just get treads and risers.

For your last tread, you must switch to the landing option in the pet palette, so you must click a point before the end of the flight(i.e. one tread back) and then switch to the landing, which you can make a long as you want, even bend it.

 

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runxel
Moderator

Thanks Barry, I tried that yesterday without success. I could make it work today, but it's really finicky. Also, if you then want or have to change the stairs dimensions, the last step will reappear. Once that happens it is impossible to remove it. At least I found no way of doing that.

Lucas Becker | AC 29 on Mac (Sequoia) | Graphisoft Insider Panelist | Akroter.io – high-end GDL objects | Author of Runxel's Archicad Wiki | Editor at SelfGDL | Developer of the GDL plugin for Sublime Text

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POSIWID – The Purpose Of a System Is What It Does /// «Furthermore, I consider that Carth... yearly releases must be destroyed»

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