Link wrote:with the arrow end?Ben wrote:I must be working miracles in this hotel room, because all my labels are adjusting just fine.
select leader line > Edit > Adjust > click line/edge you want it to adjust to. (try doing it with more than one leader line) . . . doesn't work with labels
Link wrote:Nice idea, except the Label and Arrow are connected. No stretching separates them.... only the internal bug (AC9, 2045)
2) Weird bug where the text and arrow move apart from each other. The arrow moves further upward, and looks like it is pointing to another note.
never seen that one myself - is it a 9 bug? A simple stretch should reposition it in a jiffy!
4) It's SO cumbersome to change just a couple words in each of a dozen Labels compared to the Text Tool.Yeah, sure, we'll just change 25 favorites then hunt them down for the next detail and the next detail and the next details.... it sounds like it would work if you picked a set of notes and never deviated from them. That's just not realistic for us.
That's what favorites are for. Select the label in you want to change and double click your favorite. (Just like you do with all your favoriites right?
Very carefully mate!
So which is it? Are they all favorites, and saving time? Or all individually types, and taking longer?
Anyway I am out of desire on this one, (and out of bait!) You guys go use your lines and your text and knock yourselves out!Hey, it's fun to have an argument on actual usage. All we need now is to get Karl and Matthew to write us novels on the subject and Dwight to make a joke about it.
in the interests of giving link a fair go i've done a little experimentation . . . but i'm still sticking to my guns.
typically i find that once placed and aligned the text
so with the label tool, how do i change this... -->
... to this... -->
... easily, efficiently and ensuring that the leader lines remain perfectly perpendicular to each other and the text stays the same distance away from the building aligned with other (imaginary in this case) text blocks . . ? three clicks is the cheapest way i could find - the marquee tool didn't even stretch the leaders independently to the text! what kind of tools is that???!!!
with a couple of lines and a text block it's simple. just use the polygonal editing tools to adjust the leaders. one move. two if you need to adjust the length of a line afterwards (depending on the relative lengths of two lines) -->
thoughts -->
plus points of the label tool: you can 'Adjust' the label's text to an alignment easily . . . this could be achieved by building that functionality into a generic text block's anchor point. (CADImage have this functionality built into many of their objects!).
conversely: why not build polygonal editing capabilities into the label tool's leader lines as well?
each to their own i guess . . . but i hereby declare that i will use the label tool for the rest of the afternoon even if it's only purpose is to piss off my co-workers 
cheers
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typically i find that once placed and aligned the text
so with the label tool, how do i change this... -->
... to this... -->
... easily, efficiently and ensuring that the leader lines remain perfectly perpendicular to each other and the text stays the same distance away from the building aligned with other (imaginary in this case) text blocks . . ? three clicks is the cheapest way i could find - the marquee tool didn't even stretch the leaders independently to the text! what kind of tools is that???!!!
with a couple of lines and a text block it's simple. just use the polygonal editing tools to adjust the leaders. one move. two if you need to adjust the length of a line afterwards (depending on the relative lengths of two lines) -->
thoughts -->
plus points of the label tool: you can 'Adjust' the label's text to an alignment easily . . . this could be achieved by building that functionality into a generic text block's anchor point. (CADImage have this functionality built into many of their objects!).
conversely: why not build polygonal editing capabilities into the label tool's leader lines as well?
each to their own i guess . . . but i hereby declare that i will use the label tool for the rest of the afternoon even if it's only purpose is to piss off my co-workers
cheers
~/archiben
and what about double-headed leader lines? how do you handle those?
~/archiben
~/archiben
I use the label tool for text all the time and have no trouble with it at all. No separating arrows, no funny angles, all aligned, text on both the left and right sides - any variation you can think of (well, that I can think of anyway).
To get the text coming off a particular side you need to put two segments in the leader line.
To adjust the arrow on your "Man on balcony" example Ben you just move the whole block over, then stretch the text itself back - all using the pet palette clicking on the appropriate node (much like the Details marker stretch )
To do double arrows you draw in your leader with text, then add a polyline with arrow head at the junction and group them.
Simple.
As far as having a central database of notes, check out Cadimage's Key Notes tool.http://www.cadimagetools.com/home.php?page=products&productID=173
To get the text coming off a particular side you need to put two segments in the leader line.
To adjust the arrow on your "Man on balcony" example Ben you just move the whole block over, then stretch the text itself back - all using the pet palette clicking on the appropriate node (much like the Details marker stretch
)To do double arrows you draw in your leader with text, then add a polyline with arrow head at the junction and group them.
Simple.
As far as having a central database of notes, check out Cadimage's Key Notes tool.
Bruce wrote:What happens when you have 15 of them? Drag them all over then Pet Palette each one?
To adjust the arrow on your "Man on balcony" example Ben you just move the whole block over, then stretch the text itself back - all using the pet palette clicking on the appropriate node (much like the Details marker stretch
Works for me. Of course, if there were 16 instances, then I'd have to rethink my methods. 
Anyway:
Anyway:
Link wrote:Cheers.
You guys go use your lines and your text and knock yourselves out!
TomWaltz wrote:actually he has a point - you do drag them all over, but then just use the 'adjust' command to snap all of the text blocks back onto one line . . .Bruce wrote:What happens when you have 15 of them? Drag them all over then Pet Palette each one?
To adjust the arrow on your "Man on balcony" example Ben you just move the whole block over, then stretch the text itself back - all using the pet palette clicking on the appropriate node (much like the Details marker stretch
i guess it all comes down to the kind of editing that you are typically carrying out with your annotation.
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