Sorry I never got back in time...could I use the excuse .. I was very busy, anyhow I have change work offices and now I am over across town in Sacramento working for Mogavero Notestine Associates, where I will try to merge the Archicad platform and rid of autocad. It is a mid size firm and it will take alot of assistance from architalk. By the way your advice worked. Thank you so much. "another saved!!!"