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Typical Design Fee

Anonymous
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Just curious, what are your flat rates for designing residential work? I know it is a broad question but give a ex.
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Rick Thompson
Expert
Wendy wrote:
Vitruvius wrote:
Architects should really latch on to the copyright bandwagon. Our work is exactly the type of effort it's intended to promote and protect.
Guess what? US copyright law already protects all intellectual property and any sort of creative work as belonging solely to the creator. And you don't even have to register copyrights; they already exist, just by virtue of you having created the work, regardless of who has commissioned or paid for the work to be done.

Wendy

I believe that is sorta the way it works, depending on what you were expecting to collect should you actually take someone to court. It has been awhile since I read up on it, but there is a window of 90 days (60?) that you would actually need to register the work to have the "full" copyright privileges.... hummm here is a link and a copy/paste that explains it. An issue is you can't collect attorney fees without registering the work, and they can make it a complete waste of energy.. so it's not that automatic in reality. Personally, and people steal my stock plans all the time (I even see them published under another name), it is too much effort to win that war, so I turn it over to the karma gods and open a beer... it is just not worth living that energy.

Registration of the architectural work with the U.S. Copyright Office, while not required for copyright protection, is a prerequisite to filing an infringement lawsuit. If the copyright is not registered before the act of infringement, the damages recoverable are limited to actual damages suffered by the copyright owner plus profits derived by the infringer. If the copyright is registered before the infringement occurs, the copyright owner may elect to recover statutory damages (up to $20,000 per infringement or, if the infringement is willful, up to $100,000 per infringement) and is entitled to recover his or her attorneys' fees.

In the past, design professionals who prevailed on claims against those copying their drawings have recovered actual damages based on the cost of preparing the original drawings, plus the profits made by the infringer due to the copying. If damages calculated this way are insufficient to justify the cost of litigation, it will be important to register the copyright before the infringement to preserve the right to recover statutory damages and attorneys' fees.

Copyright notice, while no longer a prerequisite for protection, is necessary to preclude the defense of "innocent infringement. " If an infringer proves reliance on lack of copyright notice on the work, statutory damages and attorneys' fees are not recoverable, but the infringer is still subject to injunction and is liable for actual profits derived from the infringement.

http://www.aepronet.org/pn/vol5-no2.html
Rick Thompson
Mac Sonoma AC 26
http://www.thompsonplans.com
Mac M2 studio w/ display
Wendy wrote:
I don't think clients should really have to pay for my learning curve, but I also don't want to be working entirely for free, either, if I really grossly underestimate things. This sort of scheme sounds like it could offer a very reasonable happy medium.

Wendy
But conversely, should you give them the benefits of your efficiency when you get really fast? This is why I think any fee that is pegged to time-based competency is a problem. Clients don't care how long it takes you. They just care about results and bottom-line fees.

If you can do the project in half the time, are your services worth only half as much? In fact, I would argue that you are worth MORE!
Richard
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Richard Morrison, Architect-Interior Designer
AC26 (since AC6.0), Win10
Djordje
Virtuoso
Richard wrote:
Clients don't care how long it takes you. They just care about results and bottom-line fees.
Oh yes they do care about how long it takes. And don't care if the eventual delay is caused by the authorities, weather, or anything else beyound your control.
Richard wrote:
If you can do the project in half the time, are your services worth only half as much? In fact, I would argue that you are worth MORE!
Definitely, but you can only try to charge double ...
Djordje



ArchiCAD since 4.55 ... 1995
HP Omen
Djordje wrote:
Richard wrote:
Clients don't care how long it takes you. They just care about results and bottom-line fees.
Oh yes they do care about how long it takes. And don't care if the eventual delay is caused by the authorities, weather, or anything else beyound your control.
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Maybe a bad choice of words. Certainly they care about how long the project take to complete overall, but if you told them it's going to take a month to produce construction documents, they don't care if it took YOU 30 sixteen-hour days, or 10 five-hour days fit in amongst other projects, once the fee is set.
Richard
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Richard Morrison, Architect-Interior Designer
AC26 (since AC6.0), Win10