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U Shaped Satir

Anonymous
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In the complete stair library I am looking at the "U Shaped" stair. we need to use this stair, and we have a problem. If you look at it the top riser of the first flight before the landing, the top tread merges with the landing so that the landing is not a rectangle, it is more of an "L" and is part of the last tread. We want the last tread of the first flight to be its own tread and not part of the landing, this would esult in more head room, and give us the rectangular landing.


Does anyone know how I can work around this using this stair ? If not, or if it is not possible, I am curious what other people have done to create their own stairs. I am thinking we just use a straight stair & a landing & an other straight stair.

JESS
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Gerald Hoffman
Advocate
Your solution is the one I would use if you want a perfect rectangle for the landing. I am pretty sure Stairmaker won't allow this. In the concrete stairs I do I use this room for the railings as they do the 180 deg. turn to still maintain minimum landing width.
Gerald Hoffman
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Did you try to draw the fill and line of travel and create a stair that way?

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Djordje
Virtuoso
Gerald wrote:
Your solution is the one I would use if you want a perfect rectangle for the landing. I am pretty sure Stairmaker won't allow this. In the concrete stairs I do I use this room for the railings as they do the 180 deg. turn to still maintain minimum landing width.
StairMaker does this.

You can choose whether the last tread is on the top floor level or one riser below it.
Djordje



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Anonymous
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Djordje wrote:
Gerald wrote:
Your solution is the one I would use if you want a perfect rectangle for the landing. I am pretty sure Stairmaker won't allow this. In the concrete stairs I do I use this room for the railings as they do the 180 deg. turn to still maintain minimum landing width.
StairMaker does this.

You can choose whether the last tread is on the top floor level or one riser below it.
As I recall StairMaker will not do a landing without some return at the upper flight. This is a real problem in the US since many residential stairs are L-shaped with square landings that are the same width as the stair in both directions. Yes the trim details are tricky, the balustrade requires easments (and perhaps volutes), and it is not legal for commercial stairs but it is a common condition that we can't easily model.
Gerald Hoffman
Advocate
Djordje wrote:
StairMaker does this.
You can choose whether the last tread is on the top floor level or one riser below it.
I thought he was talking about the intermediate landing and not the top tread/riser. If you try to dial in 0 distance between the riser and the landing you will get an error. At least I have not been able to get it to work.
Gerald Hoffman
“The simplification of anything is always sensational” GKC
Archicad 4.55 - 27-6000 USA
2019 MacBook Pro-macOS 15.0 (64GB w/ AMD Radeon Pro 5600M GPU)