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complaints about V11

Anonymous
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Ronald L. Bryant Jr.
547 Uren St.
Nevada City, Ca. 95959
(530) 265-0327
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Email = resdraw@nccn.net


To Whom It May Concern: at Graphisoft

Problems with Archicad 11:

1. At least you fixed the undermount sink on/off feature.
2. The DWG translator descriptions are in German, I speak English.
3. Zone stamps still missing a problem in V10 also.
4. I can only plot (1) sheet/layout at a time, any more than that, it stalls my mouse and I have to unplug it & reattach for the mouse to work, no its not the mouse it only happens when I plot more than one layout at a time.
5. The guide line tool is essentially useless which doesn’t bother me except that now when I use the parallel or perpendicular tool I have to continually use that button for every preceding line of that angle where as before it would follow that direction for every line drawn until I told it to do otherwise.
6. The divider line tool is not near as effective as it used to be, the half way mark does not always appear.
7. The move origin tool now only occasionally works. I think it has a keyboard shortcut conflict.
8. I had to unlink all the one letter shortcuts for the tool bar because they would be activated while I was typing in a text field thus losing that text. this was normally a first letter problem, this was a problem in V10. also
9. The stop loading feature while loading a drawing into a layout still doesn’t work, I don’t think it ever has.
10. The fit to frame in layouts works inconsistently.
11. You eliminated the plot all layouts feature in the plot menu now its the active only or I have to take the extra steps of selecting them all before plotting, this was a problem in V10 also
12. The section & marker objects are not allowing the layout number to be shown the feature is shown but highlighted and you cant check it.



That’s all of my complaints for now. You should know that I’ve been using Archicad for 15 years, on apple equipment, but when you needlessly rearranged the menus in V10, the new features worked great, but I spent at least 90 min a day for two weeks looking for where you relocated menu items. I was furious, then I purchased V11, hesitantly, just two month after purchasing V10, and again the new features are there but they are not performing as well as in the older versions, features like the markers, I’ve been tempted to go back to version 9 but it’s to late now, however I over the years have convinced several other business to use Archicad. But for now I’m warning them away from V11 and I may never upgrade again.

Thanks Ron Bryant
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Aaron Bourgoin
Virtuoso
Now that's a cry for help from the wilderness!

One single post in all the time you've been using ArchiCAD?

Why have you been keeping this to yourself for so long? Welcome to the forum. Perhaps you might have found some help in digestable pieces here along the way.
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Karl Ottenstein
Moderator
ron wrote:
2. The DWG translator descriptions are in German, I speak English.
This is indeed an issue in the US release.

Actually, they appear to be in Dutch/Flemish, as best as I can guess...but maybe Danish? Somewhere north and/or west of Germany anyway. 😉

This was reported elsewhere on the forums. All dialog boxes are in English, it is only the name and description of the 'extra' translators that are not in English. Somehow they got bundled with the US release. Most people are advised to define their own from scratch anyway, but a good set of 'out of the box' translators would be nice.
3. Zone stamps still missing a problem in V10 also.
Not adequately described to diagnose. If you mean you get an error message that zone stamps are missing after you have loaded a project that uses a different library (e.g., you had been using the AC 10 library in one project and then loaded a project using the AC 11 library), then this is a known 'behavior', which GS does not consider a bug. (It was reported and is on their list.) It is not a real problem - just ignore it, if this one is indeed what you're talking about.

Here's what happens:
You have one project that has Zone Stamp A loaded for the Zone Tool. You close it.
You open another project that has Zone Stamp B assigned to the Zone Tool and which loads a library that does not contain Zone Stamp A.
AC loads the new library and then checks the previously assigned zone stamp against that library before it assigns the new settings defined in the new project file. It finds the old stamp missing and gives an missing zone stamp error. If you reload libraries, the error is gone.
It's annoying, but apparently not one of their priorities.

If that's not what you're talking about, please explain in detail.

I'll let someone else pick up with '4' and onwards...

Karl
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Anonymous
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Karl wrote:
Actually, they appear to be in Dutch/Flemish, as best as I can guess...but maybe Danish? Somewhere north and/or west of Germany anyway. 😉
Ik spreek Nederlands weinig...

But it looks like Dutch to me.

Es ist gar nicht Deutsch, nicht wahr?

I think the big give away is where it says "de nederlandse staandard".
Karl Ottenstein
Moderator
Matthew wrote:
I think the big give away is where it says "de nederlandse staandard".
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ron wrote:
... however I over the years have convinced several other business to use Archicad. But for now I’m warning them away from V11 and I may never upgrade again.
well said.

welcome to the forum.

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Karl Ottenstein
Moderator
OK, enough OT and joking aside... anybody else want to chip in on complaints #4 and onwards? Without being a 'Graphisoft apologist', many of these are user issues. It would be nice if someone else could share the load of responding to them... 😉

Karl
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Karl wrote:
OK, enough OT and joking aside... anybody else want to chip in on complaints #4 and onwards? Without being a 'Graphisoft apologist', many of these are user issues. It would be nice if someone else could share the load of responding to them... 😉


well. actually.

#5 - guide lines. i agree with ron. they broke the whole parallel/perpendicular shift constraint which i still believe is far more useful than the guidelines ever will be.

#8 - without wishing to sound like a bloody parrot - a lot of you have heard my thoughts on 'direct numerical input'. ron - you can turn it off in the tracker preferences and your single-key shortcuts come back to life. graphisoft should have honoured this legacy usage instead of introducing something "because revit has it".

#9 - agreed also. it's never worked.

#12 - the whole marker things is illogical, confusing and arse-about-face. you do need some training to work through it, but shouldn't it work the way we do instead of having to learn some programmer's twisted logic? agreed.

(sorry karl!)

ben
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Anonymous
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Hi this is Ron Bryant the poster of the original complaints about AC11
just letting everyone know that I finally resolved the two biggest issues.
#4 after several hours of playing around I found the plotter has to be routed through a different method. Why? I don't know it always worked correctly before. I had to make the plotter another IP address within the mac printer preferences.
#12 I Finally figured out how to get the detail/section markers to work, what a round about, stupid method that does not show up correctly until the drawing is also placed in a layout.

Note to Graphisoft Thanks to my posting on ArchiCAD-Talk I finally got calls back from Graphisoft. In the future think S.T. (seamless transitions), if it works don't break it, don't move it, and don't change it just to justify an upgrade.
Thanks Ron