Overlay with new zones on old?

[Thomas Holm]

Just now, my head seems full of gravel...

I'm trying to overlay zones, that is I have covered a plan with zones that I want to keep, but now I'm trying a different plan design, and I want a fresh and different zone set in the same pln. Seems like hiding the first zone layer and creating the new set on a new layer doesn't cut it - the old zones are still active and Archicad protests and won't comply. ("A zone was detected outside the current" something - that's pure BS because I'm clicking in an area within an old zone- but this topic wasn't about f-d up error messages, so shut my mouth)

I can measure areas with the fill tool, but that¨s rather limited. Is there a way to non-permanently disable zones without deleting them?

[Erika Epstein]

Thomas,

I had a similar or same problem with zones with overlapping zones. Even when some are on a separate and hidden layer(s) they would show up in schedules.

Graphisoft Hungary confirmed it was a bug and that it wouldn't be fixed until AC10.

In the meantime I have to move the zones I didn't want to show away from the building while generating a schedule. Pain-in-the-you-know-what but at least there is a workaround.

[Thomas Holm]

Djordje wrote:
It should warn you that you are placing a zone within an existing one, and ask you whether you want to do so.

And when I say "I do" Archicad still doesn't do it. It has something against me!

Erika, I thik there's some kindo f a bug. The behaviour doesn't seem consistent. But as I said, my problem is that I can't place the overlapping zones I want, not that they show in the calculation scedule.

[Anonymous]

why don't you use the thick marquee tool and marquee the whole project. then drag a copy of the whold project to the side so that the zones are not overlapping

I know it is a little more trouble but it saves pains in the butts later. i have had the same problem i found no other way around it

[Djordje]

Thomas wrote:
And when I say "I do" Archicad still doesn't do it. It has something against me!

Shame! To leave you high an dry!!!

What is the geometry mode of your zones? Autodetect or manual?

[Thomas Holm]

The mode is aotodetect, obviously. I have no trouble if I enter the zone boundaries from scratch every time I place one. But then, I save no time, either.

What worries me is this issue seems inconsistent. Some users have no trouble, others do.

What I would like is an option to disable detection of present zones (or to turn them off) while I place new ones. I want AC to just detect the walls or lines designated as zone boundaries and located around the spot I click with the zone tool, regardless of if I have put zones there before.

What seemingly happens now is when I click, AC looks for the nearest area where no zone is found, and places a zone there. That might be anywhere on the plan! I have no control and that bothers me. And it doesn't help to hide the previous zone layers.

I'm of course not sure if it really is a bug, but this behaviour is consistent in this office, at least.

[kevin b]

Not that this helps but I am experiencing similar problems, somethimes I get the overlapping zones message, sometiumes I get thea zone outside the clicked area has been detected message, and sometimes I get nothing as in I click and click and click and absolutly nothing happens, no message, no error, no zone, nothing. All of this with the autodetect (either one) mode.

[Thomas Holm]

Help or no help, it's always reassuring that you're not alone. Less chance that next stop is the lunatic asylum. Now Djordje 'n all, what am I doing wrong? Or is it a bug?

[Djordje]

Thomas wrote:
Now Djordje 'n all, what am I doing wrong? Or is it a bug?

Hmmmm ...

Aside from sending me the file, I really can't check.

Are you guys sure that all your walls connect?