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!Restored: Cinema 4D CE 6

Karl Ottenstein
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Ola wrote:
I purchased Cinema 4D 8.2 and was wondering what the best way to export from Archicad and workflow. How does the rendering time vs result compare to Artlantis. Just purchased Piranesi also, I believe you can create a Epix file directly in C4D now

thanks
Lots of new toys! 😉

I only have C4D XL 7 - so AFAIK, there I have to use 3DS and Vedute to go into Piranesi. Nice if 8.2 allows it directly.

3DS format works well from AC to C4D. See various notes and comments in the archives at:

http://www.escribe.com/software/archicadtalk/

and there are also some good comments at:

http://www.fred-speaks.com/phpBB2/index.php

Some of those guys will hopefully re-post their comments here with some nice screenshots of the parameter settings dialogs (hint, hint).

As for speed, comparing C4D and Artlantis is difficult because C4D can do so much more than Artlantis, particularly as far as lighting goes...if you have the "Advanced Render" module (or the XL package). For comparable quality on a fast computer, I don't know that you'd see the difference. With a dual processor, C4D wins since Artlantis won't use the other processor. As soon as you use a radiosity solution, C4D will start to slow down (the race depends on your parameters and number of processors - or even network rendering, and option there and not with Artlantis) - but the results will astound you compared to Artlantis 'global illumination'.

[For example: if the C4D 8.2 CD contains some of the same sample scenes as XL7... look for a folder called 'Radiosity-LIght'. There's a JPG there ("Light") that is a wonderful demonstration of lighting effects that C4D can do and Artlantis cannot even come close to. Load the sample scene file in C4D and render it as a sample of how long such a thing takes on your computer. Not bad at all on mine. I've attached a cropped section of that image for others to see here ... image copyright Maxon Computer I should imagine.]

Including human time, Artlantis is a no-brainer IMHO - wins hands down for quick renderings.

Even if you cannot create the EPix file in C4D ... you can create the file in AC or Artlantis, then render the (same sized) image in C4D and finally import that image as the new Save RGB channel in Piranesi. Mix and match.

Have fun!

Karl

maxon-light.jpg
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Anonymous
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Robert thanks for pointing out the Daylight tutorial by Charles Piles, great stuff.

And finally Stuart, C4D XL7 for $100 - Thats what I use on my PC and it is great. I see no big difference between that and C4D 8. I feel if I can just master the basics of the program, that I can create stunning presentations.

Mark
Anonymous
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Burginger wrote:
And finally Stuart, C4D XL7 for $100 - Thats what I use on my PC and it is great. I see no big difference between that and C4D 8.

Mark,

Where can I find XL7 for $100?

Anonymous
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rbissett wrote:
Burginger wrote:
And finally Stuart, C4D XL7 for $100 - Thats what I use on my PC and it is great. I see no big difference between that and C4D 8.

Mark,

Where can I find XL7 for $100?

Really, good question. I saw that in Stuart's Post previously, maybe on eBay. O.K. Stuart, where did you get that price from???
Anonymous
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Oops. Big oops. And apologies.

It was a wrongly written email (typo, they say) that I had received. C4D 6 is available for 100 bucks here (Istanbul). Still not bad though? Apparently 7 is not on sale at all

I've still got the reseller coming in on Friday for what he thinks is a demonstration. I think, under the circumstances, we're going to go for C4D 8.5XL ...

Apologies to all who hoped - I know I was disappointed ...

- Stuart
Anonymous
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No problem Stuart, what's the big deal about a multi-hundred dollar typo?

To all others, I spoke before I could follow through regarding the C4D 6CE Free for Windows users. Paul Babb is currently in Germany and he will let me/us know how to receive C4D 6 CE when he gets back. Meanwhile to all Mac users, just pick up a copy of MacAddict Dec. issue with disc - it will be there free.

Stuart, enjoy the program.
Anonymous
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Yep, enjoy C4D Stuart,
Absorb the demonstration & come back to us with any tips & tricks that your re-seller shows you that haven't already been touched on in this forum

Justin
(jealous C4D Art7 user)
Anonymous
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I have put together a file, (using Mark's as a starting point) that uses a simple light dome as well as a hard shadow pass.

To add this to the scene and the post work in photoshop took about 10 minutes.

The file is available for download here. The file works with the CE version.

I still need to put together a tut whic explains what I did.
Anonymous
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Thanks Michael, I don't understand the dual model, one plain white the other textured.

But rendering just one of them lets me know what would happen if I ask the painter for a white fascia and he forgets to use masking.

Or is this the ultimate mat board model?

I will be interested in your tutorial.
Anonymous
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The photoshop file should explain the reason for one white image. I am using that one for the hard shadow overlay. render one with soft shadows/fake gi lighting with color, and the other takes care of the hard shadow from the sun.

Tutorial should be this evening. (time permiting)

***EDIT*** Wont be this evening. I am trying to make it as in-depth as possible, so Later in the week it should be up, then I will tackle modeling in Cinema for ArchiCAD users.
Anonymous
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Hey all,

It has been a few years since this has been posted, perhaps you might like to see it again. The web page is unedited so it contains plenty of broken links, but the images are still there.

A link to my ArchiContest Web Site, Judged by Dwight, DJ and myself.

http://www.burginger.com/WINNERS.html

Enjoy!