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!Restored: Cinema 4D CE 6

Karl Ottenstein
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Ola wrote:
I purchased Cinema 4D 8.2 and was wondering what the best way to export from Archicad and workflow. How does the rendering time vs result compare to Artlantis. Just purchased Piranesi also, I believe you can create a Epix file directly in C4D now

thanks
Lots of new toys! 😉

I only have C4D XL 7 - so AFAIK, there I have to use 3DS and Vedute to go into Piranesi. Nice if 8.2 allows it directly.

3DS format works well from AC to C4D. See various notes and comments in the archives at:

http://www.escribe.com/software/archicadtalk/

and there are also some good comments at:

http://www.fred-speaks.com/phpBB2/index.php

Some of those guys will hopefully re-post their comments here with some nice screenshots of the parameter settings dialogs (hint, hint).

As for speed, comparing C4D and Artlantis is difficult because C4D can do so much more than Artlantis, particularly as far as lighting goes...if you have the "Advanced Render" module (or the XL package). For comparable quality on a fast computer, I don't know that you'd see the difference. With a dual processor, C4D wins since Artlantis won't use the other processor. As soon as you use a radiosity solution, C4D will start to slow down (the race depends on your parameters and number of processors - or even network rendering, and option there and not with Artlantis) - but the results will astound you compared to Artlantis 'global illumination'.

[For example: if the C4D 8.2 CD contains some of the same sample scenes as XL7... look for a folder called 'Radiosity-LIght'. There's a JPG there ("Light") that is a wonderful demonstration of lighting effects that C4D can do and Artlantis cannot even come close to. Load the sample scene file in C4D and render it as a sample of how long such a thing takes on your computer. Not bad at all on mine. I've attached a cropped section of that image for others to see here ... image copyright Maxon Computer I should imagine.]

Including human time, Artlantis is a no-brainer IMHO - wins hands down for quick renderings.

Even if you cannot create the EPix file in C4D ... you can create the file in AC or Artlantis, then render the (same sized) image in C4D and finally import that image as the new Save RGB channel in Piranesi. Mix and match.

Have fun!

Karl

maxon-light.jpg
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Anonymous
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please follow the link that i have posted.

then choose, art*lantis in forum menu....and choose the topic "news about new version", then you will find a post made by Marcos with the file "teste2" atacched.....that's the image.

i have tried to atach the image here...but it gives an error
Dwight
Newcomer
Thank you for sorting it out.

This episode reminds me of Orwell's "1984" where history can be changed by editing information....

That is why they like hard copy in court.

Doubleplusgood wishes postingwise.
Dwight Atkinson
Anonymous
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Dwight....did you liked the image?....What do you think about it?
Dwight
Newcomer
Very hopeful, but the true test of this application is with combined light sources and subtle texture maps... I am suspicious of that brilliant mediterranean light - seductive, like their women.
Perhaps you know what I mean.

We will wait and see.

In view of the fact that I am just wrapping an Artlantis article for 3D World magazine, don't count on me to be unbiased......
Dwight Atkinson
Anonymous
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Found it too, I was looking at AVworks, wishful thinking I guess.

Yes very nice that Abvent has radiosity as an option with Atlantis. Still have quite a way to go in order to compete with C4D. Is there PhotoShop Multi-Layers too?

Looking for smooth realism in a render? Check out:

http://www.cgtalk.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=127835

Mark
Anonymous
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Here is an interesting link. HDRI is a wonderful rendering effect in C4D.

http://www.rain.org/~msavard/hdri/Articles/UsingHDRIs.html

Mark
Anonymous
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Those of you with only a demo version can still explore the many tools offered in Cinema4D just by downloading the example models offered in this thread and out on the internet.

For example, to learn a quick lesson about placing an ArchiCAD model into a background image visit:

http://www.maxoncomputer.com/tutorial_detail.asp?tutorialID=243&site=

This support tip and technique web page supplies the necessary file for you. I took it a step further and combined it with the building model I supplied earlier in this thread. It looks like a photo taken out behind the office of a recently completed scale model, whew! - that took alot of balsa wood and glue.
Anonymous
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Here is another one of those great links which help with C4D Workflow.

The Topic regards the placement of your model into an existing photograph. Enjoy! - Remember Rui Batista? He entered an image in the ArchiContest. Thanks Rui for the examples.

http://www.vreel-3d.de/plugins/PhotoMatch/info.html

To buy:

http://www.vreel-3d.de/plugins/PhotoMatch/links.html


Mark Burginger
Anonymous
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Facinating examples of Greek Sculpture, scanned and available for you to download. I created a blue Caryatid, the "Lost ArtLantis" - except I rendered it with C4D.

http://www.debevec.org/Parthenon/
Anonymous
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Maxon has released Cinema 4D R9.

check out the new features at http://www.maxon.net

looks worthy of an upgrade.