tigr wrote:
Of course not, but we can try something different.
Well, Pawel, I think this is humble pie eating time for me
LW sure does more than I expected, in competent hands. You illustration is possibly the best argument so far for me to dig a bit deeper into it, and see what goodies are there.
I especially like the soft shadow, which I did not think was possible without multiple light sources. It does not seem as good as Art.lantis one, but it looks good enough. Worth looking into
Still, there are some things I find annoying, I'm sorry to say.
One of them is the constant shading value you get on the underside of the beams. The undersun gives it a uniform shading, wilst the radiosity on Art.lantis gives it a nice smooth gradation.
I also see a funny looking inverted v on the wall under each beam. Why does this happen? you say that there are only tree lights, and it seems like there are at least two more lights... Why is the rendering engine causing this bands?
Finally, you let us know about rendering time. From my experience, and for still another 2 or 3 years (the time it will take for hardware to take up), when you start to fiddle a lot with light and texture you allways get big rendering time (the big kind you don't stay watching it done, like more than 20 minutes). So it really does not matter that much if it takes 1 hour or 1.5 hours. the most important variable is the time you take to set your file to render. easy interface and quick preview is fundamental, and that is harder to measure.
Anyway, It is a great rendering and you are to be congratulated on it
Thank you Krippahl for your kind words. It is good to know that you are open-mind person, this encourage me to do some more tests despite lack of free time recently.
Some answers first:
Constant shading under the beam comes partly from "undersun" and partly because of different texture I put there (a lot more diffuse in it). That always be the most noticable lack of radiosity, but there are some cures for it if you really need it.
Inverted v shadows - it is because of nature of "SkyObject" which is kind of dome with several parallels and many light sources hanging around them, pointing to the center. For completly soft shadows you need to check there such a option. In that example - I did not, and it was intended. I hardly ever use this option - it gives more unrealistic effect then overlapping shadows from multiply light sources this light has - but it's just my impression.
I agree about rendering time. For finals I set the scene and go to sleep so it makes no difference is it 10 min or 8 hours, but I use it also a lot during the modeling to see how different materials act in different light conditions. This usually gives me some guidelines how to represent my work in the end. For that LW works for me just fine.
I was about to buy my copy of ArtR some time ago but finally step into Maxwell
Now I have no regrets and decided to stick with LW because I belive it will be improved in next ver. of AC so it is good time to get used it. In the mean time above will be another attempt with a little different approach. Feel free to comment anything.
Greets
Some answers first:
Constant shading under the beam comes partly from "undersun" and partly because of different texture I put there (a lot more diffuse in it). That always be the most noticable lack of radiosity, but there are some cures for it if you really need it.
Inverted v shadows - it is because of nature of "SkyObject" which is kind of dome with several parallels and many light sources hanging around them, pointing to the center. For completly soft shadows you need to check there such a option. In that example - I did not, and it was intended. I hardly ever use this option - it gives more unrealistic effect then overlapping shadows from multiply light sources this light has - but it's just my impression.
I agree about rendering time. For finals I set the scene and go to sleep so it makes no difference is it 10 min or 8 hours, but I use it also a lot during the modeling to see how different materials act in different light conditions. This usually gives me some guidelines how to represent my work in the end. For that LW works for me just fine.
I was about to buy my copy of ArtR some time ago but finally step into Maxwell
Now I have no regrets and decided to stick with LW because I belive it will be improved in next ver. of AC so it is good time to get used it. In the mean time above will be another attempt with a little different approach. Feel free to comment anything.Greets
tigr wrote:
Thank you Krippahl for your kind words. It is good to know that you are open-mind person, this encourage me to do some more tests despite lack of free time recently.
Welcome. If I where not open-minded (be open minded, but not so open as to make you brain fall out, grasshopper), I would still be working in flatCAD
tigr wrote:
Inverted v shadows - it is because of nature of "SkyObject" ...
Roger. This is no longer a mystery for me, thank you.
tigr wrote:
I agree about rendering time. For finals I set the scene and go to sleep so it makes no difference is it 10 min or 8 hours, but I use it also a lot during the modeling to see how different materials act in different light conditions. This usually gives me some guidelines how to represent my work in the end. For that LW works for me just fine.
Ah! But wouldn't it be great to have instant preview in LW?
tigr wrote:
I was about to buy my copy of ArtR some time ago but finally step into Maxwell
Double Ah! Alas, my friend, I lack your faith in AC10 concerning improvement in LW (interface, light). But then, I am no betatester so I have no inside information (so I am free to talk about this). It is just a feeling, hope for your (and all the other LW users) that I am wrong.
Anyway, you proved your point. It is possible to make as real looking images in AC LW as it is on ArtR. It just takes a lot more time and expertise
)
mr. tiger!
...that's a real beauty there...
LW on AC is really something to dig in...not just for previews
in the words of AC/DC
for those about to rock
i salute u...
and...
goto see that dwight's LWAC bible
btw...can you show me something with transparancy, window or water materials...if it's not to much to ask
cheers
...that's a real beauty there...
LW on AC is really something to dig in...not just for previews
in the words of AC/DC
for those about to rock
i salute u...
and...
goto see that dwight's LWAC bible
btw...can you show me something with transparancy, window or water materials...if it's not to much to ask
cheers
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