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Transparent / Hidden Lines

Jose Luis Villar
Contributor

To have a Pen 0 for lines to get invisible lines as there is 0 and -1 that can be applied to fills.

9 Comments
Barry Kelly
Moderator

A transparent line is effectively a dotted or dashed line.

 

For 'invisible' lines, use a permanent (orange) guide line or segment.

They will remain until you delete them and will not print.

 

Barry.

James B
Graphisoft
Graphisoft

Can you explain why you’d like transparent lines? In which situations would you use these? These would be hard to find or select.

There are other wishes already for hiding edges like on fills.

https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Wishlist/Hiding-individual-sides-of-a-fill-outline/idi-p/353935

(edit: fixed link, was trying to remove what I thought was unnecessary characters at the end, turns out the link needed that)

 

Stefan L_
Rockstar

I'm not Jose, but...

Short answer: To make AC (a bit) more complete, to let us do what ever comes in our minds. 🙂

 

One of many examples: We often use lines as zone boundaries - on the same layer as the zones, to keep things compact.

But we don't want to see them on the floor plan, so we struggle with GOs and 'dotted lines with ultralarge distance'. But this fails on curves.

 

The wish @James B mentioned (link is broken) is another part to free us subjugated users...

JPugh
Contributor

I wonder if this is about being able to 'turn off' certain lines in object representations, rather than actual drafting/ construction lines?  I know I've sometimes wished I could...

Or maybe for graphic overrides where standard pen set and layer management approaches are cumbersome?

Either way, I can see this adding useful flexibility.

James B
Graphisoft
Graphisoft

@Stefan L_  fixed the link, I had removed some characters to clean it up - which ended up breaking it.

 

You normally have edges turned on for Zones? And your request is about turning off those Zone edges on plan through Graphic Overrides? (which is different to the original post). Thanks.

Stefan L_
Rockstar

@James B Tnx for fixing.

No, we hardly ever have edges turned on for zones, we won't get rid of them (because there is no GO with 'Pen 0' yet).

But we often (have to) use simple lines (line/polyline/arc tool) as a boundary for 'automatic' zones to keep things 'semi automatic'.

 

The facade tool produces polygonal zone boundaries, profiles and panels so we use it for vertical elements only.

But we need a zone boundary, so it's an arc, on the same layer as the zones:

 

ZoneBoundary.png

Barry Kelly
Moderator

I can see this being a valid issue.

You need the line there to control the zone, but you don't want to see the line.

The same if you want to split a room into two zones without having a physical line, which might look like a change in floor finish when there isn't one.

The line could be in a hidden layer, but that layer needs to be active any time you are adjusting zones.

 

The problem with invisible lines is you just wouldn't know where they were until you go hunting for them.

 

To me it seems we need a non-printable line or layer.

Or maybe a non-printable pen,

I am sure there is a wish for that somewhere already.

 

Barry.

Stefan L_
Rockstar

@Barry Kelly wrote

The problem with invisible lines is you just wouldn't know where they were until you go hunting for them.

To me it seems we need a non-printable line or layer.

Or maybe a non-printable pen...


Hunting? GS could recycle this switch to show/hide those marker thingies... 🤔

Non-printable layer? AC already writes one to DWG files - one column more in the layer manager sounds nice... 😊

Non-printable pen? Well, that's exactly what @Jose Luis Villar is asking for. 😎

 

We already can draw invisible hatches (BG pen only, set to 0) or model invisible elements (above our heads, no projection).

We're professionals, I'm sure we can cope with invisible lines.

abdelaziz
Advisor

Hi,

This function already exists in the complex profile editor; it would be good to have it initially in the basic hatching tool of Archicad and subsequently for construction elements such as roofs, meshes, slabs, shells, etc.

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