3D AutoCAD Export Problem - ArchiCAD 11

[Srinivas]

Hi,

I have a problem exporting an ArchiCAD V 11 model into AutoCAD 3D. Attached is the image that I saved from ArchiCAD V 11.

I am working with ArchiCAD USA V 11 - Build 1033.

I am using the same DWG translator settings in both the versions, but still with no luck.

Thanks in advance.

- Srinivas

[Srinivas]

The reason for me to export the model into AutoCAD is that I want my engineer who uses AutoCAD to see how I want the building to sit on to the existing terrain and that's the reason why I am saving it to AutoCAD 3D.

[Erika Epstein]

If the engineer is using autocad, then she will only see it in 2d form i.e. section,elevation and plan so send dwgs of those views.

You might set up a DWG folder of views to update your consultants. These would be saved with DWG layer combination(s) and model view options.

Create a publishing set for the engineer and then you need only to republish as your project evolves.

Also send a pdf of the current architectural when you update consultants and include 3D views either on a layout or as independent photos. These round out the picture for your consultant.

[you could suggest they switch to a 3D program such as archicad]

[Anonymous]

Erika wrote:
If the engineer is using autocad, then she will only see it in 2d form i.e. section,elevation and plan so send dwgs of those views.
[you could suggest they switch to a 3D program such as archicad]

Erika,
We all love Archicad here, but I don't think we should misrepresent other products as grossly as this. AutoCad has been a fully 3D application since about release 10 (appeared in the late 1980s) The older 3D interface was of course nothing to write home about. 3D editing features were introduced to Archicad in version 6.5. AutoCad is a drafting program, not a design program.

Anssi

[Thomas Holm]

Well, it depends on how you see it. As I see it, Archicad was 3D from the beginning in 1986. I started using it in version 3 something, in the early nineties. I did 3D design and editing then, modeling buildings from building elements, walls, slabs and roofs, and generating drawings, plans, sections and perspectives from the 3D model.

In Autocad, from version 10 or something, you could add height (z-values) to lines and other graphics. There were external applications that took advantage of that to make something they called 2 1/2 D. But modeling? Nope. At least not in Autocad alone.

[Erika Epstein]

Anssi,
I've never used autocad. When I evaluated it years ago, it seemed more like computer drafting, not modeling, as I knew was possible and available even then using other programs. I recognize the importance of autocad in the history of computers in architecture, but even twenty years ago it was in my opinion behind the times.

My understanding is that the 3D version of autocad are add ons. The Autocad offices I've seen are primarily still drafting in 2Dand whichever program they used for 3D modeling was done parallel to, not integrated like with Archicad and Revit.

[Eduardo Rolon]

As a 15 year AutoCAD user.
The addon for Autocad was called Advanced Modeling Extension and it was for R11 and R12. It substituted the option of fake extruding (thickness) and the 3D face command by including a real extrude and boolean operations. You could use paper space to define the elevations and you could use the "section" command to extract them or you could create PLT files and reimport them. Clunky? Maybe but totally useful.
Afterwards AME was included with the regular Autocad and it was one of the differences with AutoCAD Light the other being LISP programming and running custom routines.
I know this because I did 3D modeling using Autocad during my masters 1992. Therefore not knowing how to use something does not mean that that software cannot do it, it just means that you don't know how to do it.

Image was modeled in AutoCAD R12 (DOS), rendered in Electric Image (Mac) and cleaned up in Photoshop 3 in 1994. This was done over a weekend around 36 hours of work.

[Erika Epstein]

Thank you Edourdo,
I am learning a lot about Autocad's abilities.

[Rakela Raul]

we just got autocad 2008....nice interface, (2D & 3D interface), along with it a software calld 'Impression' , sort of a piranesi like.
these autodesk guys are sleeping at all.

[Anonymous]

Thomas wrote:
But modeling? Nope. At least not in Autocad alone.

Actually, truth be told -- AutoCAD is a superior modeler at this time to both ArchiCAD (without Maxonform) and Revit. Lofts, meshes... all can be done in AutoCAD from v2007 onwards. AutoCAD's main value is that it's the workhorse for a lot of other software; the civil engineering community uses Civil 3D which is built on AutoCAD. But for the building industry, AutoCAD's necessity is something like the way a fish needs a bicycle. I only say this because my wife says Gloria Steinem was wrong 😛

And I don't have anything to say about AutoCAD Architecture. But if you're in AA, it's obvious you need help

[Thomas Holm]

Wes, I wasn't talking about Autocad 2007. It didn't exist 15 years ago