CIGRAPH AC12 VERSIONS

[Nuge]

I have just received my copy of AC12 and was flabbergasted that the Cigraph versions are still a month or so away from release (and will require a dongle). Surely Graphisoft should be keeping these companys in the loop regarding release dates.

Does anyone have a workaround (other than save all objects as GDL) as i have a large job i want to bring thru to AC12 but it has numerous archiforma objects.


Regards Nuge

[Karl Ottenstein]

Chris wrote:
there is not a proper substitute for ... . archistair.

Have you looked at Cadimage Stair Builder?
http://www.cadimagetools.com/products/tools.aspx?id=6

Looks impressive, but haven't seen any comments on it in actual use yet.

Karl

[Anonymous]

Karl wrote:

Chris wrote:
there is not a proper substitute for ... . archistair.

Have you looked at Cadimage Stair Builder?
http://www.cadimagetools.com/products/tools.aspx?id=6

Looks impressive, but haven't seen any comments on it in actual use yet.

Karl

I have - it looks very promising - it's problem for my use is that you can't create custom treads. You can modify the first tread but that's it.

My dongles (yes, two of them , I don;t know why, maybe because I own two cigraph products) arrived today, so I guess I will be upgrading, if reluctantly. I certainly hope that they get things sorted out a whole heck of lot better when next upgrade comes around.

[Karl Ottenstein]

Chris wrote:
My dongles (yes, two of them , I don;t know why, maybe because I own two cigraph products) arrived today, so I guess I will be upgrading, if reluctantly. I certainly hope that they get things sorted out a whole heck of lot better when next upgrade comes around.

I imagine that my dongles won't be arrive, after the comments below - but even if they ship them, I won't get them because Cigraph never asked for my current mailing address. Did anyone get a personal (well, bulk mail-merge) email from Cigraph apologizing for the delay, telling them about the dongle situation, and asking for address confirmation? Maybe I just didn't get that either.

Cheers,
Karl

[Dennis Lee]

I got mine today, and I was quite suprised because I didn't get any emails or any contact confirming my current address. Good thing I didn't move, I guess.

I am still considering whether to upgrade or not.

It is already a hassle carrying around a wibu key when I go home, I don't know if I really want two. Also, I am getting used to AC w/o the plug-ins now.

[Brett Brown]

Has anybody got Archistair 1.18 to load in 12? My addon manager tells me it is an outdated add-on that cannot be used with Archicad.

[Stress Co_]

Karl wrote:
Did anyone get a personal (well, bulk mail-merge) email from Cigraph apologizing for the delay, telling them about the dongle situation, and asking for address confirmation?

Nope.... and my key arrived yesterday.

[KeesW]

We got one Cigraph dongle on Thursday and have reminded them that we need two. But, no software yet.

Is this delay going to happen with every ArchiCad upgrade? If so, can I strongly suggest that Graphisoft and the add-on makers ensure that AC upgrades don't also require an add-on upgrade?

It is not the users who requested annual upgrades - it is, as I understand, a marketing thing. Whilst Archicad continues to supply poor or defective routines for standard operations (eg stairs, site contours, scheduling, etc), users will continue to use add-ons to plug the gaps. If this is the norm, they will become increasingly frustrated with delayed issue of add-ons. My practice uses most of the CadImage add-ons (for which was also delayed) but is still waiting for the new version of Architerra fom Cigraph.

[Karl Ottenstein]

KeesW wrote:
Is this delay going to happen with every ArchiCad upgrade? If so, can I strongly suggest that Graphisoft and the add-on makers ensure that AC upgrades don't also require an add-on upgrade?

The delay has nothing to do with Cigraph having their software ready. They had their add-ons ready for 12 during the beta testing, as did all other major 3rd party developers.

The delay is purely a management decision within Cigraph related to how they were going to protect their add-ons. That decision, and the delay, is inexcusable to customers and as noted by Dwight below, complaints should go to Istvan Toth, the head of Cigraph who apparently knows nothing about Public Relations and Marketing.

Presumably, now that they are shipping the dongles, there should be no further delays with future versions of their software.

Cheers,
Karl

[KeesW]

Thanks Karl, I didn't know that.

What about the notion that add-ons don't need to be upgraded for every new Archicad release?

[Karl Ottenstein]

KeesW wrote:
What about the notion that add-ons don't need to be upgraded for every new Archicad release?

This is tougher, and has been asked every year or two... It would certainly be nice, but add-ons access a lot of information that is specific to a particular build or release and from time to time Graphisoft must even change the interfaces and certain organizational issues to improve performance or to add new features.

During the "easiest" releases, a 3rd party just has to recompile their add-ons, perhaps with a few minor edits; no heavy lifting. Other times, significant code changes are necessary.

Cheers,
Karl