Now that is a thrilling topic.
I also wondered about the future of Cinerender (or Cineware as its called now) and if GS will do the switch again.
Maxon, the company of Cinemax4D, who also is part of the Nemetschek family, axquired Redshift in 2019. And while back Maxon promised that "nothing would change" – well of course it did.
Following this article Maxon has stopped the development of its ProRender, which was their own take on the world of GPU-accelerated rendering, and even removed it from C4D alltogether,
So their master plan is to substitute all of their original 3 renderers with Redshift.
And since GS has this kind of cooperation with Maxon they (we) will be affected too, obviously.
Let's see if and when GS drops the surprise.
I also wondered about the future of Cinerender (or Cineware as its called now) and if GS will do the switch again.
Maxon, the company of Cinemax4D, who also is part of the Nemetschek family, axquired Redshift in 2019. And while back Maxon promised that "nothing would change" – well of course it did.
Following this article Maxon has stopped the development of its ProRender, which was their own take on the world of GPU-accelerated rendering, and even removed it from C4D alltogether,
So their master plan is to substitute all of their original 3 renderers with Redshift.
And since GS has this kind of cooperation with Maxon they (we) will be affected too, obviously.
Let's see if and when GS drops the surprise.
runxel wrote:They obviously have, in Australia. I just want more, here!
that is a thrilling topic.
Let's see if and when GS drops the surprise.
IMHO I don't see any advantage for Architects to use AC internal engines (Say Cinerender, Redshift, Maxwell or whatever) to present their projects. I mean: The idea of having to built an object/texture library from scratch that will in the end be way inferior of what TM, Enscape and Lumion offer doesn't make sense to me. Specially with these new real time render plugins. 
My 2cts.
My 2cts.
You guys might like to take a look at this specs page... https://www.maxon.net/en/requirements/redshift-requirements . My 2 year old iMac with Radeon Pro 580X 8Gb doesn't make the cut. 
If Maxon have halted other product development, such a high benchmark will raise questions about what we are supposed to use in AC if 95% of hardware isn't fast enough for Redshift. Is Maxon being ring fenced by Nemetshek as a high end render developer and they will only deliver OEM basic render code for use in AC, if you want Redshift you will need to pay Maxon for it.? Sounds a bit similar to the TM strategy.
If Maxon have halted other product development, such a high benchmark will raise questions about what we are supposed to use in AC if 95% of hardware isn't fast enough for Redshift. Is Maxon being ring fenced by Nemetshek as a high end render developer and they will only deliver OEM basic render code for use in AC, if you want Redshift you will need to pay Maxon for it.? Sounds a bit similar to the TM strategy.
I like to some feedback in regards to Redshift or any other render Software from a professional point of view. As a 3D Visualisation Artist for good 20 years that might be helpful.
There are now days many good render engine out there but all of them have something in common, they still need to be operated by the user. This is the key point to any render engine. Most of you know vray and Corona are the most widely used engines by professionals but even they don’t have a “magic button” to produce amazing renders. I am on many forums and not one week goes by without someone asking to please share the render settings. Render settings by themselves are useless and I tell you why.
Every image is different in regards to the camera, the light, the textures, the model, etc. A good example is an interior render. If you have an interior with mostly darker colors/materials/textures and we share the settings for this render to someone who likes to have an internal view with mostly lighter colors materials, then the scene will be too light, most likely washed out. This is because the light bounces around much further and stronger then with darker colors/materials.
Your room might have more or less windows, or different day light, again this will influence the settings needed in render engines. I think you get the point about sharing settings just something I wanted to clear up.
As you can see it comes down to knowledge on how not just to use any render engine but the 3 key elements of a great visual which are, the 3D model, the textures and the scene lighting. This means the render engine only counts for 33% of your final image, interesting isn’t it?
Twinmotion, all this above counts of course for Twnimotion too. It is a very powerful engine and used right the images produced are pretty good. On top of this it will render way faster than vray, Corona, Redshift, etc ever can. This is even more important when you produce videos.
Yes the quality might not be as high as vray or Corona but if you look at some of the examples below Twinmotion can produce images and videos than are more than satisfactory for most of your clients.
On another note I saw someone is concerned about the direct link in AC25. Direct links are nice but I only use fbx exports, they are much more flexible and only take a couple more clicks even when updating a model or models.
I will be releasing a Twinmotion course for Interior Designer and Architects next month in which I show how to push Twinmotion to the limits. A lot of this course you can actually implement with any other render engine too which is quite helpful.
The two images you see below are raw renders from Twinmotion apart from the background image I have added behind the glass, like a photomontage. Yes no alpha channel in TM so I had to create a fake one which is quite easy to to, if you know how
The video again raw TM export no post.
Cheers Carsten
Video example teaser:
There are now days many good render engine out there but all of them have something in common, they still need to be operated by the user. This is the key point to any render engine. Most of you know vray and Corona are the most widely used engines by professionals but even they don’t have a “magic button” to produce amazing renders. I am on many forums and not one week goes by without someone asking to please share the render settings. Render settings by themselves are useless and I tell you why.
Every image is different in regards to the camera, the light, the textures, the model, etc. A good example is an interior render. If you have an interior with mostly darker colors/materials/textures and we share the settings for this render to someone who likes to have an internal view with mostly lighter colors materials, then the scene will be too light, most likely washed out. This is because the light bounces around much further and stronger then with darker colors/materials.
Your room might have more or less windows, or different day light, again this will influence the settings needed in render engines. I think you get the point about sharing settings just something I wanted to clear up.
As you can see it comes down to knowledge on how not just to use any render engine but the 3 key elements of a great visual which are, the 3D model, the textures and the scene lighting. This means the render engine only counts for 33% of your final image, interesting isn’t it?
Twinmotion, all this above counts of course for Twnimotion too. It is a very powerful engine and used right the images produced are pretty good. On top of this it will render way faster than vray, Corona, Redshift, etc ever can. This is even more important when you produce videos.
Yes the quality might not be as high as vray or Corona but if you look at some of the examples below Twinmotion can produce images and videos than are more than satisfactory for most of your clients.
On another note I saw someone is concerned about the direct link in AC25. Direct links are nice but I only use fbx exports, they are much more flexible and only take a couple more clicks even when updating a model or models.
I will be releasing a Twinmotion course for Interior Designer and Architects next month in which I show how to push Twinmotion to the limits. A lot of this course you can actually implement with any other render engine too which is quite helpful.
The two images you see below are raw renders from Twinmotion apart from the background image I have added behind the glass, like a photomontage. Yes no alpha channel in TM so I had to create a fake one which is quite easy to to, if you know how
The video again raw TM export no post.Cheers Carsten
Video example teaser:
Thanks for your valuable input, Carsten!
But I'm still missing any info from Graphisoft regarding their plans for Redshift. How come only Australians are blessed?
But I'm still missing any info from Graphisoft regarding their plans for Redshift. How come only Australians are blessed?
Precisely.
What I'm a little envious about is that only Aussies are trusted enough to get this info.
I want the information too!
What I'm a little envious about is that only Aussies are trusted enough to get this info.
I want the information too!
Barry wrote:
As far as I know we don't actually have it yet.
Just that it was mentioned in the AUS Archicad launch webinar as a future update.
Barry.
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