Cover fills on existing elements not working properly

[Anonymous]

Hi all,

I am trying to get my existing elements in elevations and sections to have a 25% cover fill, which I have got to work a couple of ways, but then it doesn't show in the drawing on the layout.

The two methods I used were to change the fill type to 25% for the material I use for existing elements in the Renovation Override Styles, and the second was to just change the fill type in the Renovation Override Styles. As I said, both of these work in the elevation/section view, but not on the layout.

So is there something I am missing in the model view options, renovation filters, drawing tool options, or elsewhere? Or will this just not work?

Thanks

Ben

[Anonymous]

Sorry, I just realised that it is only the first method that works, and still only in elevations/section views. I had method 1 applied when I tried method 2.

[David Maudlin]

Ben:

You need to check that the View (from the View Map in the Navigator) placed on the Layout has the correct Renovation Filter settings (Renovation Override Styles). One way to trace this back is to select the Drawing on the Layout, then right-click and select Open Source View from the context menu.

David

[Anonymous]

Thanks for your reply David. I checked the renovation settings in the layout by tracing it back as you described, but it was correct.

What I have since found is that what I was seeing on the screen as a 25% fill was actually just ArchiCAD's adjustment of pen colours (from white to grey). It seems that method 1 that I described will work for vectorial fills, but not solid fills.

But now I am having another problem, where some of my existing elements are working differently to the rest. I have attached two screenshots showing the problem and my renovation filter settings. In both images the ridge tiles and window frames are showing as solid, which is different to everything else (everything in the screenshots is existing). Screenshot 2 shows what I am trying to achieve, with a vectorial fill modified to look solid (although it's a bit hard to tell except for the shadows, but it works on the layout).

But of course these settings create another problem, since renovation override styles cannot be changed between filters, where my existing walls in plan will have their original fills, the same as new elements.

I hope I've made clear what I am trying to achieve, so can anyone suggest a way of doing it which is quicker than manually applying a fill over the elevation?

[Anonymous]

Screenshot 2

[Anonymous]

I should point out that the solid fills on the ridge tiles and window frames goes away when I remove the fill from the material I use for existing elements in the Renovation Override Styles.

[David Maudlin]

Ben:

The first image (Screenshot 1.jpg) is not showing, try reattaching it.

David

[Anonymous]

Sorry, post above has been updated.

[David Maudlin]

Ben:

I am not clear on the issue, as I cannot see any vectorial fill on any of the elevations. Check your Elevation Settings > Model Display > Uncut Elements > Fill Uncut Materials (Surfaces) with: Nothing, and Vectorial 3D Hatching: checked. I don't know why some of the Existing Elements are using a different material, do they appear the same in the 3D Window with the same Renovation settings?

David

[Anonymous]

Sorry, maybe I didn't explain it very well, but there is a vectorial fill on the existing elements, except it shows as a solid fill because the vectorial fill is just vertical lines spaced something like 0.1mm apart. But I checked those two things that you mentioned, and the elevation (well actually a section marker) settings were, as you said they should be, and the in the 3D window, with the renovation filter changed to the one that the elevation used, the window frames and ridge tiles show the same as all the other existing elements, where they would otherwise be a noticeably different colour. I don't think the fact that I am using a section marker makes any difference, but just to explain why I do that, it is simply so that I can use F6 to quickly go to my last elevation, since I haven't found a way to add a short cut for the "go to elevation' menu item.

Anyway, I have just tried using a 'proper' vectorial fill, with a bright coloured pen, for my existing material's cover fill, and found that the equivalent of screenshot 1 shows the vectorial fill only on the window frames and ridge tiles, but in my grey existing element pen, while screenshot 2 equivalent shows the exact same thing on the window frames and ridge tiles, but the vectorial fill in the bright coloured pen on all the other existing elements. So I have only changed the cover fill type and colour to achieve these results. I can upload another couple of screenshots if necessary.