Rennovation Filter - Overriding Demolition Elements to match Existing Elements, on an Existing Renno

[BYAArchitects]

Hoping there is something I am missing, or that this can be something that gets resolved in an update or new version of ArchiCAD....

How we want things to look:

• Existing (and elements that are yet to be demolished) Elements - Grey
• Demolition Elements - Red
• New Elements - Black ( or what ever we want them to look like)

The issue: 
With the current set up/ the way the renovation filter is working, is the  elements marked for demolition are not being overridden to match the existing elements (see images below, where the window, bed and walls are showing as black and grey.)

On the existing plan, the demolition elements are showing up incorrectly (see image below):

On the demolition plan, they're showing up correctly (see image below):

On the proposed plan, everything is showing up correctly:

What I don't want to have to do:

I am not interesting in manually overriding every demolition element to appear as grey (to match the existing renovation filter) as it is a waste of time, especially when projects are constantly changing.

I have explored having additional Graphic Override Combinations/ Rules, but even then they are limited when it comes to filtering with renovation elements. Additionally it wouldn't work having a Graphic Override Combination for Demolition/ Existing and New, as that would result in an insane amount of Graphic Override Combinations and we already have a lot....

Summary:
Do you have a way to get Demolition Elements to show up the same as Existing Elements on an Existing Plan, then have the Demolition Elements show up different to the Existing Elements on a Demolition Plan? 

[Barry Kelly]

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@BYAArchitects wrote:

As previously stated, that won't work.

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I just did it.

That graphic override only applies to your existing plan view.

So what ever GO combination you are using for that view, just add a rule to change everything you want to grey.

If you are using that same GO for other views as well, then yes, you may need to duplicate just that one GO combination and add the grey rule.

You can only use one GO combination per view, so the other GO combinations in other views should not be affected (unless I am missing something, and that is entirely possible).

Although I would still make things easy for yourself.

When showing just the existing plan, don't override anything.

Barry.

[Lingwisyer]

Do you have multiple different Demolition plans that use different GOs? What is the issue with adding a rule to all of your GOs that makes non-new cut elements a solid grey? Excluding your Demolition plans which would have to override using their own GOs, all of your others would be unaffected?

Ling.

[BYAArchitects]

This is the number of Graphic Override Combinations we have in our Template File (please see attached image below). The number to the side aligning with the appropriate Model View Options we also have pre-saved...

As I've said before, we have a decent number of pre-defined, Model View Combinations, and it is not practical and user friendly for the way our office operates to have each of these as duplicates for existing and new and or demolition. If there is a specific rule that would work across all bases, being everything shows up correctly when on an existing, demolition and new, view. Then we're back in business... Otherwise, the option your proposing doesn't work, we have tried it.

[Barry Kelly]

Model View Options have nothing to do with renovations.

All you need to do is create a new graphic override rule for 'Existing - Grey' and add that rule to a new '18 Existing - grey' graphic override combination.

If you need plans that use the other graphic override combinations to also show grey existing, then add that rule to those GO combinations (schemes) as well.

The renovation filter you use (as well as the GO and MVO) is stored in the 'View Settings' of a particular view.

So you would create a view for your 'Existing Plan' and then set the MVO, existing renovation filter and the grey existing graphic override (or other override) that you want to use for that view.

Or maybe we are tackling the renovation plans from 2 totally different points of view.

To me you simply have a plan.

Set the MVO to show what you want to see.

Set the renovation filter you want to use and the graphic override as well as the layer combination,scale, pen set, etc., and save that as a view.

Change the settings to something else you want to see and save that as a new view.

Save as many views as you need for all the various plans you want to see.

Barry.