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Scaling Pen Weights for Layouts

What is the current method for getting a View made and saved in say 1/4" scale, to show pen weights at a different scale like 1/16"=1'0" ?
Or the other way around - perhaps a 1/4" scale drawing/view that we want to display in Layout as 1"=1'-0" with line widths correct at that scale.

Do we still have to make a special pen sets for that?

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Anonymous
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Hi

Is there anyway in ARCHICAD to bump up the line weight of a drawing in a layout by a factor?

E.g. I have two detail drawings. One is 1:10 one is 1:5
The two drawings are of the same Detail but saved with different views, one view at 1:10 and one view at 1:5

When I lay them out on the drawing I want the line weights for the 1:5 drawing to be the same as twice as thick as the 1:10 drawing

In Vectorworks there was a way in the Viewport settings to bump this up by a factor

I'd rather not have to set up scale specific Pen sets in archicad to achieve this

Any tips?

Ben
Barry Kelly
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benjamin_chan wrote:
Is there anyway in ARCHICAD to bump up the line weight of a drawing in a layout by a factor?
I have merged this topic with another that was already being discussed about the same thing.

I really don't think automatic scaling of line thickness will work.
You may not want all lines to increase (thin lines you might not want to make thicker) or decrease (already thin lines will get to thin).

I think the best way is to have alternate pen sets.
This way you can control the pens you want to change or not.
But some of the other options here may help.

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Erwin Edel
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In the world of A-size sheets, I generally keep a lot of my layouts on A1 sheets, which means I can print them on A3 at 50%, which is generally usable (can still read the text) and that does scale the weight in the way you describe, allthough at some point the printer just cannot print lines at a smaller weight.

However, if I would be producing a 'tiny' set of drawings on regular basis, and would consider a custom pen set for that, I would just copy my cloned views and assign the pen set and name this set for the 50% printing. Put some standard layouts for this in my template and every project I start has this workflow set up.

As an example, when I do the BIMx with floor plans, sections and such included, I find that the presentation trick of showing your drawing in the 3D works best when all the drawings are on their own sheet. I don't generally print out the projects this way, but I have created a BIMx layout set in my template for this reason only.
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Erwin wrote:
In the world of A-size sheets, I generally keep a lot of my layouts on A1 sheets, which means I can print them on A3 at 50%, which is generally usable (can still read the text) and that does scale the weight in the way you describe, allthough at some point the printer just cannot print lines at a smaller weight.

However, if I would be producing a 'tiny' set of drawings on regular basis, and would consider a custom pen set for that, I would just copy my cloned views and assign the pen set and name this set for the 50% printing. Put some standard layouts for this in my template and every project I start has this workflow set up.

As an example, when I do the BIMx with floor plans, sections and such included, I find that the presentation trick of showing your drawing in the 3D works best when all the drawings are on their own sheet. I don't generally print out the projects this way, but I have created a BIMx layout set in my template for this reason only.
Exactly. So even if we had automatic scaling in Layouts we would still want to have special pen sets for many things, and for many reasons.
But I still think it would be useful for many situations.

I find that I am having to print out odd scale drawings for people more, sooner and sooner in the process of producing the final set of working drawings. I just don't like having to fuss with drawings I already have perfected at the end use scale for the sake of all the requests for drawings along the way to the final set. Why can't they just wait until I am finished
!!! Make just one set and if they can use it fine, if not, too bad.

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@Steve Jepson wrote:

But I still think it would be useful for many situations.

I find that I am having to print out odd scale drawings for people more, sooner and sooner in the process of producing the final set of working drawings. I just don't like having to fuss with drawings I already have perfected

Agree completely

 

Doesn't make sense not to have the option to scale pen weights along with everything else

 

Why have to keep and maintain several identical pen sets rather than just have a check box to scale pen weights?

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