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GDL: Maybe Im in the wrong place

Aurasphere
Expert

Maybe I was posting on the wrong board or something but where is the best place to get more advanced GDL help

 

eg I am trying reimplement some legacy quanities etc and the List layout text file no longer works for the listing component listing scheme.

 

I previously used 

FORMAT "#(TOTAL[7]):16.2 " to format output in the layout...now the output is simply 16.2 instead of the formatted value previously displayed...see pic below in (TOTAL[7])

 

Aurasphere_0-1718792599067.png

 

Who would I talk to about what has changed ie why it no longer works...last time was back in v18 I think

 

EDIT: It seems that it no longer allows maths like this

FORMAT "#(TOTAL[7]/QUANTITY[7]):12.2"

?

Cheers

Mark Wesse
AC26 | Win10 | Since v6.5r
Architerion - Architectural Systems Developer
Aurasphere - Acoustics
Building Biology - Human Compatible Architecture
"--- Every time...do it better ---"

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Lingwisyer
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Python?

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Its the layout language for Archicad listings

Mark Wesse
AC26 | Win10 | Since v6.5r
Architerion - Architectural Systems Developer
Aurasphere - Acoustics
Building Biology - Human Compatible Architecture
"--- Every time...do it better ---"

Karl Ottenstein
Moderator

Yes, all of your posts were in the wrong place (Libraries) ... instead of here (GDL).  The Libraries and Objects forum is for using existing objects and managing libraries... nothing about coding goes there... it all goes here.  I'll move your other posts to this forum.

 

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Karl Ottenstein
Moderator

The List layout, database, property objects etc has been deprecated for many years.   I'm really not sure at all why Graphisoft just killed it but left it as part of the product since it isn't particularly useful any longer - notably because property objects cannot be associated with "modern" elements and extract data from them.

 

There is no hope that this will be developed further, as only a handful of people ever understood how it worked - powerful as it was.  So, you can try to make something happen, but shouldn't expect any help from Graphisoft much less any bug fixing.  Again, for something deprecated like this, I really don't know why it is still included in the product...

 

One of the forum moderators
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Thanks Karl!

Mark Wesse
AC26 | Win10 | Since v6.5r
Architerion - Architectural Systems Developer
Aurasphere - Acoustics
Building Biology - Human Compatible Architecture
"--- Every time...do it better ---"

Yeah...its like many Archicad features (and sadly some other brilliant products), if only it was finished to make it accessible and some good training resources.

 

I would be pretty upset if they dropped it without an equivalent function mechanism...especially now that BIM is mature and "other" packages are doing things very well also.

 

All the new ie 'propertes' is very limited in context to working in larger organisation with in house quantity survey. I did have a look around before I resurrected this...but I forgot how amazingly simple and powerful it can be with just a little excel to manage the larger labour.

 

Thanks again

Mark Wesse
AC26 | Win10 | Since v6.5r
Architerion - Architectural Systems Developer
Aurasphere - Acoustics
Building Biology - Human Compatible Architecture
"--- Every time...do it better ---"

If you have used it, you would also know that it has not been touched at all in well over 20 years…perhaps even 25.  So it has never been a feature that could be relied upon, in spite of its potential. 

One of the forum moderators
AC 27 USA and earlier   •   macOS Ventura 13.6.7, MacBook Pro M2 Max 12CPU/30GPU cores, 32GB

lol

and thats the beauty of it...so robust and still brilliant (despite the graphic layout trauma), 20 years later 😉

Mark Wesse
AC26 | Win10 | Since v6.5r
Architerion - Architectural Systems Developer
Aurasphere - Acoustics
Building Biology - Human Compatible Architecture
"--- Every time...do it better ---"

Karl, there def seems to be a bug in it...even just the basic AC27 library listings like eg Components by Keys/Long don't show any fields that have any maths done in the layout

 

eg Component/Keys

Aurasphere_0-1718922880926.png

 

Aurasphere_1-1718922907810.png

 

Aurasphere_2-1718922926920.png

 

Aurasphere_3-1718922950569.png

 

In summary, any field in the listing that is not a simple format

#Value[7] will result in no output shown

 

 

 

Mark Wesse
AC26 | Win10 | Since v6.5r
Architerion - Architectural Systems Developer
Aurasphere - Acoustics
Building Biology - Human Compatible Architecture
"--- Every time...do it better ---"