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ArchiCAD Crashing

Anonymous
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Hi.... I'm working in ArchiCAD 10 on a MAC and every time I go to the 3D window the bug reporter pops up and closes down the program. It also just happened as I was creating a section cut. Any ideas of why it might be doing this? Thanks again....
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Dwight
Newcomer
Swell. Ignore warnings, proceed at peril.

That object is calling a macro. Something is corrupted.

It might be the object should be replaced from a clean library.
It might be an inadvertent bad setting in the object.

If you were a mechanic and this were an old car, you'd systematically test the possibilities by locking out what the problem might be.

It seems like a window trim. Try to do a 3D without showing windows and see.

This is done by using the Filter Elements in 3D command that provides a list of categories to not view.
Dwight Atkinson
Anonymous
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I can't say whether this relates to your crashing but there seem to be many ways that the wa_trim_us_10.gsm can go wrong (I fixed one last year that broke when the part was used in a profiled wall). I just took a quick look at the script and (as I suspected) it looks like the problem is with your sill settings.

Unfortunately the library parts are too complex to trap for errors in all possible parameter interactions. This macro has almost 4000 lines of code in the 3D script - and it is only putting the trim on the window.

I have been lobbying long and hard with GS to get a handle on this. I am hopeful that we will see some improvements in the near future.

In the meantime try adjusting your sills (or turn them off).
Anonymous
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Dwight wrote:
Swell. Ignore warnings, proceed at peril.

That object is calling a macro. Something is corrupted.

It might be the object should be replaced from a clean library.
It might be an inadvertent bad setting in the object.

If you were a mechanic and this were an old car, you'd systematically test the possibilities by locking out what the problem might be.

It seems like a window trim. Try to do a 3D without showing windows and see.

This is done by using the Filter Elements in 3D command that provides a list of categories to not view.
WOW you guys are a bit rough on a newbie!

I will try your sugguestion and report back tomorrow.
Anonymous
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Gentlemen

Your recommendation to turn-off the windows appears to have helped.

One question for the experts. Evidently you knew by the error code it was a window. Is there a legend that is available that we should have to diagnosed these problems on our own?

Thanks once again for all your help.
Anonymous
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We belive the problem with the windows was due to being units that were modified .

The warning messages did state that certain items had not been "converted".

Does anyone have an idea about window units not being "converted" what does that mean?

Thank you
Dwight
Newcomer
How does one get experience in this area? Old Spouses Tales, i guess: Sort of like knowing that cayenne pepper is good for staunching blood flow in an emergency.

Is there a list of these things? Yes. Just read the entire Archicad Forum archive.

"Converted" may or may not be valid - what it is trying to tell you is that the code doesn't make proper sense. Most likely a bad setting. If not, then an old object.

In the window bit problem, I have had years of difficulty with just those kinds of elements, and after spelunking in the Archicad library files, have learned to interpret the code names. I have geek genes even if my daddy was a motorcycle thug. He must have been trying to disguise his sensitive nature.

Solving these problems is tricky. Sometimes an ordinary user, through intentional or accidental object settings is the first person to discover a problem that makes it all the way through Beta testing. Sort of like after i got my new Volvo and immediately drove it to Mexico and back. Because of the extra mileage, my car was the first one to have the lambdadoodie valve crap out.

But warnings are warnings and a user needs to think like a mechanic to systematically remember what they did just before things went wrong.
Dwight Atkinson
Anonymous
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Hey Dwight I got your point about how to jump into AC

Thanks
Ralph Wessel
Mentor
sham wrote:
Does anyone have an idea about window units not being "converted" what does that mean?
"Converting" means using the instructions in the object's 3D script (program) to produce 2D/3D geometry. Most ArchiCAD library parts are dynamic, producing 2D/3D geometry on demand rather than storing a pre-defined shape. If there is a fault in the object's programming, it will fail to 'convert' to a 2D/3D image. The warning message provides you with some clue as to why parts of your project model are not appearing in 3D. Diagnosing the actual cause is another matter
Ralph Wessel BArch
Software Engineer Speckle Systems
Anonymous
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Thanks Ralph for responding...your explanation sounds as good as anything that I have read to date.