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Archicad 28 Direct3D Runtime Error

ETSaum
Booster

Archicad 28 is constantly freezing or crashing, diving a Direct3D / graphics card error.

Archicad 27 and Archicad 26 do not have the same problem.

 

I've updated graphics drivers, and uninstalled / reinstalled Archicad to no avail.

 

I get the same error every time; sometimes, it's within seconds of opening the program. Other times, it can take several minutes. But it happens multiple times a day.

'Direct3D Runtime received a Device Removed Message  DXGI_ERROR_DEVICE_HUNG'

That's typically an issue with either the graphics card itself or the graphics card's connection the rest of the machine. However, this is the *only* program experiencing the problem, which is usually indicative of a glitch in the program or an incompatibility between the program and the graphics drivers.


These are two of the smallest projects I've ever done in Archicad, and the only two on 28 so far. Archicad 28 appears to be sending conflicting instructions to the GPU, which causes it to hang. No other programs are effected when it happens; in some instances, when it happens in one Archicad 28 file, it doesn't even impact the *other* Archicad 28 file I've got open.

Dell XPS 15 9530 with NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4060 Laptop GPU.

Archicad 28.0.2 (3110)

 

Operating system used: Windows

Edward Saum
Windows 11, AC Version 28
edward@fdgarchitecture.com
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jamesMorris
Advocate

Got a response from GS (or NVDIA). 

 

The suggest to uninstall the driver by using this tool CleanupTool_1.0.20.0.exe, restart the PC, reinstall the driver by selecting "reinstall". If that does not help, we should reinstall Windows.

 

 

Apparently (according to YouTubers like GamersNexus) NVIDIA currently has massive driver issues. 

Botonis
Mentor

The Guru3d uninstaller does the same thing. You have to know how to enter safe mode and use the uninstaller (at your own risk) to clean all the files from the driver. It cleans the registry and all the traces, and user settings.

I have been using this for years to prevent any conflick between older and newer drivers' instalation.

 

https://www.guru3d.com/

 

 

Botonis Botonakis
Civil Engineer, Enviromental Design MSc., BIM Manager for BS ArhitectsVR
Company or personal website
Archicad 27. Windows 11. Intel Xeon 2699x2,64 GB RAM, Nvidia 3080Ti. 2 Monitors.
jamesMorris
Advocate

I think you mean 

Display Driver Uninstaller DDU (official)

https://www.guru3d.com/download/display-driver-uninstaller-download/

 

Yeah, it can help in some edge cases. 
We are currently not affected enough (maybe once every month) to further hunt down the issue (that gets potentially solved with the newest NVIDIA driver anyway). 

 

Good luck!

mthd
Virtuoso

Maybe a long shot but does installing the latest Archicad update of 28.1.1 address the problem ?

AC8.1 - AC28 ARM AUS + CI Tools
Apple Mac Studio M1 Max Chip 10C CPU
24C GPU 7.8TF 32GB RAM OS Sequoia.
Certificate IV Architectural & Building
Technology, (Estimation & Administration).

No. No change for us.

WIN11; i9-13900KF; 32GB DDR5-6000; 2TB SSD; RTX 4070ti
jamesMorris
Advocate

576.02 Studio Driver just dropped with over 40 bug fixes. Maybe give it a try. 

Frank Schlenke
Enthusiast

Still no Solution for this Bug?

WIN11; i9-13900KF; 32GB DDR5-6000; 2TB SSD; RTX 4070ti

Subsequent NVIDIA updates appear to have solved it for me.

That, and I disabled background updates for sections for now. When I re-enabled it, I got the error *once*.

Edward Saum
Windows 11, AC Version 28
edward@fdgarchitecture.com
Paul King
Mentor

Getting the same issue here, under latest NVIDIA driver 576.52

In my case the Direct3D crashing issue seems to occur when the PC sleeps (but only sometimes).  

PaulKing_0-1748567860641.png

 

I can say that this is not a power settings issue, as PC is set to 'always on' performance mode, with only the monitor actually sleeping

 

Hard to be sure there is not something else that has changed at a system level (a corrupted graphics driver, or a bad windows update) - but as the original poster notes, no other applications are affected, and coupled with the long running issue of appalling 3D editing performance since AC27 & the switch away from OpenGL as the graphics API (as reported many times), this does smell a bit like an ArchiCAD Direct3D compatibility problem. 

 

Presumably the lack of fixes over many months just represents the level of service we can expect now, for our increased subscription costs and loss of permanent licence ownership.  I would have thought the staggering subscription costs more than adequate to  fund the creation of a new API from the ground up, if they had to.

 

 

PAUL KING | https://www.prime.net.nz
ArchiCAD 8-28 | Twinmotion 2024
Windoze 11 PC | Intel Core i9 10900K | Nvidia Gforce RTX 3080 | 32 Gb DDR3 | 2x4K monitor extended desktop
Botonis
Mentor

Have you checked you motherboard 's BIOS settings concerning the GPU. 

4G decoding enabled- PCI speed- Default GPU, performance settings (Sometimes for OS to handle the performance you have to enable it in BIOS otherwise 

the motherboard has the control) etc.

Are you using any overclocking utility?

Never had an error related to Direct3D and believe me I have several apps installed on my PC.

 

I am often using GURU3D GPU driver uninstaller for a clean driver install of NVIDIA.

Botonis Botonakis
Civil Engineer, Enviromental Design MSc., BIM Manager for BS ArhitectsVR
Company or personal website
Archicad 27. Windows 11. Intel Xeon 2699x2,64 GB RAM, Nvidia 3080Ti. 2 Monitors.

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