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Stretching objects with 3D hotspots couses freeze

kristoftihanyi
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Hi!
Lately I have been having issues with  vertically stretching library parts using their hotspots in 3D view.  The operation causes the program to freeze up for about 20 seconds. This happens with library parts like chimneys and kitchen cabinets, so I'm guessing it has to do with complex, parameter driven geometries. Is this a known issue? Can we expect it being fixed soon?

 

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Operating system used: Windows 10

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Liamthanks
Enthusiast

Doubt it! Was reported a year ago and nothing has been done about it - https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/Issues-with-modeling-in-3d-height-stretch-AC27/m-p/6361...

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They have fixed it in the latest Update of AC 27:

https://graphisoft.com/downloads/archicad/updates/archicad-27-3-0#release-notes 

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Good news then.

Let's hope they can get an update out for 28 soon as well.

 

Barry.

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Versions 6.5 to 27
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Just tried with AC 28 with different libraries. The issue is still present. sorry for trusting their release notes. 🤔

AC16 - AC aktuelll , WIN 10

Have just updated my AC27 to 27.3 Build 6000 and can confirm the issue still exists......😒

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Still an often very serious issue under ArchiCAD 28.

 

I found one geometrically very simple CI tools object (tub object #`1624) where the act of simply dragging the built in 2D object 'sink' label consistently causes roughly 120 seconds of lag on my relatively fast machine, and a CI tools floor drain object that is even worse again for lag when its length is  adjusted via hotspot (at least this one has the excuse of vaguely complex 3D geometry to update)- and there are many others.

 

Seems to be a problem with ArchiCAD's dynamic feedback system - something broke with this around version 26 and has seemingly only gotten worse since.

Seems to get worse when project is larger & more complex (even when well within normal levels of complexity) - for example in an empty project, attempting to drag the label on the same object, the lag issue is still a number of seconds, but is well short of the two minutes experienced for this object in a real world project.

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Yeah, I have run into that issue a few times recently. I concur that it feels like an issue with the dynamic feedback of objects. At first I thought it was just due to being a complex object that should probably have had the feature disabled, but the latency was inconsistent and sometimes it was there for simpler objects...

 

Ling.

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This is interesting.

I always thought it was a problem with the objects themselves, in particular kitchen cabinets.

It seems the older version 24 cabinets would stretch but the newer 27 & 28 ones would not.

 

I just tried my cabinet in 28 (I have only tested with Graphisoft library before).

Lo and behold it would not stretch either if I used the height stretch.

But fortunately I have a height moveable hotspot which I use (another reason I have never noticed).

If I use that hotspot and the 'move node' option, it stretches just fine.

 

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So it does seem to be a program issue rather than an object issue as I thought.

 

The problem is, I don't think a lot of the default Graphisoft objects will have a moveable height hotspot.

 

Barry.

 

 

One of the forum moderators.
Versions 6.5 to 27
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Lenovo Thinkpad - i7-1270P 2.20 GHz, 32GB RAM, Nvidia T550, Windows 11

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