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2172 folder name length big problem

2172 for Mac can't access from the Open command the folders with a longer name (didn't check exactly what the character count limit is). These are folders previous releases were opening with no problem. The files open all right from the Finder, but don't want to even think what can happen with project libraries, or BG ArchiCAD.

The network is a 100 mb Ehternet with G4 and G5s on OS 10.3 and 10.4. The server is OS 10.3.9 using AFP over IP and the data is stored on an xRAID [whatever all of that means].

Anybody else had this big problem?
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TomWaltz
Participant
It's 27 characters. I've complained to GS about it, and it seems that it is going to be that way from now on.

This was added in build 2172. Apparently long file names were causing some kind of problem somewhere,

Gee, instead of fixing the bug, let's just outlaw long file names and break even more stuff....
Tom Waltz
TomWaltz wrote:
It's 27 characters. I've complained to GS about it, and it seems that it is going to be that way from now on.

What happens when you open with 2172 or a future version a PLN or LBK created with the old version, which is in a project folder with more than 27 characters?

If you change the project folder name you need to relink all your hotlinks, Plotmaker drawings, and libraries. If you keep the old longer-than-27-and-therefore-now-unreadable folder name, do ArchiCAD and BGArchiCAD and Plotmaker still read all the paths somehow?
owen
Newcomer
oh thats awesome GS .. of course the problem isnt with your software, its with the operating system and all the other apps in the world that can take long file/filepath names!

r benbeneks avatar should become the new GS corporate logo

http://archicad-talk.graphisoft.com/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&u=2240
cheers,

Owen Sharp

Design Technology Manager
fjmt | francis-jones morehen thorp

iMac 27" i7 2.93Ghz | 32GB RAM | OS 10.10 | Since AC5
Anonymous
Not applicable
Ignacio wrote:
TomWaltz wrote:
It's 27 characters. I've complained to GS about it, and it seems that it is going to be that way from now on.

What happens when you open with 2172 or a future version a PLN or LBK created with the old version, which is in a project folder with more than 27 characters?

If you change the project folder name you need to relink all your hotlinks, Plotmaker drawings, and libraries. If you keep the old longer-than-27-and-therefore-now-unreadable folder name, do ArchiCAD and BGArchiCAD and Plotmaker still read all the paths somehow?
You cannot open the file as you cannot navigate past the folder with the long name. You can ironically, save to the longer name folder, but then you cannot access the file that you just saved.
You can still open the file from the Finder --which is not shiny clean, but clean enough if it saves you from the renaming-the-folder-and-relinking files-and-drawings-and-redirecting-libraries whole afternoon job.

So I was wondering if Plotmaker, ArchiCAD and BGArchiCAD somehow manage to keep the paths by somehow cropping the folder name internally, or if they will be giving me missing or deleted objects and drawings and hotlinks all over the place because they just ignore the 27+ character folder.
Eduardo Rolon
Moderator
Another item affected is if you try to merge an AutoCAD file whose names exceeds the 27 character limit it will be unselectable in the merge window.
Eduardo Rolón AIA NCARB
AC27 US/INT -> AC08

Macbook Pro M1 Max 64GB ram, OS X 10.XX latest
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Anonymous
Not applicable
And as it happens, the ArchiCAD Favorites that we load are in folders with long names. This is dog is going to hunt for a while I am afraid...
Anonymous
Not applicable
This seems ridiculous. Does anyone know why we are still being subjected to file name limits that went away with Mac OS9? I thought that GS was working to fix this, not make it worse.
henrypootel
Graphisoft Partner
Graphisoft Partner
Not to be down on anyone, but don't you think that a file/folder with 27+ is a bit much?
I just had a quick look over my machine, and the longest filename i can find is about 18 characters.
If i want to write an essay, i'll use Word.
Yes it is a bit backward that AC wont support a long filename, i agree, but i think that having shorter filenames in a more organised folder structure would benefit your workflow anyway.

BTW this bug isn't on the PC:-)
Josh Osborne - Central Innovation

HP Zbook Studio G4 - Windows 10 Pro, Intel i7 7820HQ, 32Gb RAM, Quadro M1200