AC13 : Structural Property

[Anonymous]

I've started investigating AC13 possibilities (demo version) and I wonder why the Structural Property tab for walls, beams, columns, ... is hidden while using the AC13 template? What's the point for manually check this option in the Tool Settings Dialog Boxes?

[Anonymous]

I guess it's because it doesn't actually do anything unless you are transferring the model to a structural program like Tekla.

I've also noticed there isn't a similar setting for object based beams which may cause problems.

[Anonymous]

Plausible but strange as it is communicated as one of the main 13 new features

[Karl Ottenstein]

It is odd that there does not appear to be any use of this feature within ArchiCAD itself - and the manual gives no specific details on how this is used in communication with engineers - if is is part of the IFC export, or what.

Here is a screenshot of the added panel to select load-bearing (or not) walls, columns, beams, etc.

Karl

[Karl Ottenstein]

For the architect to verify and schedule load-bearing components, I expected the 'load bearing' attribute to appear as an available schedule criterion. But, as you can see in the attached screenshot, it is not there.

Find & Select does not have an option to search for elements that are Load Bearing either.

Without these capabilities, I do not think it is wise (errors and omissions) to utilize this feature as you cannot audit your work...even if it does exchange to engineers somehow.

Karl

[Anonymous]

I think it may be part of the IFC export settings as I did notice the little IFC rebuild dialog briefly appear when I first enabled the Structural Property tab.

I've also just noticed this setting isn't passed on using the eydropper between elements. Should that be so?

I agree that it should be selectable using the find and select tool. How else can you double-check without individually selecting every element?

[Steve Jepson]

so just put it on a layer with an extension like .loadbearing

I don't understand why being able to identify a wall as load bearing is supposed to be sometihng new and/or important. There have always been lots of ways to do that.

What am I missing here ? Whats useful about that? How is doing it the new way better than the old way ?

[Steve Jepson]

Joeri wrote:
I've started investigating AC13 possibilities (demo version) and I wonder why the Structural Property tab for walls, beams, columns, ... is hidden while using the AC13 template? What's the point for manually check this option in the Tool Settings Dialog Boxes?

Where did you get an ArchiCAD 13 demo version ? Send me a link.

[Anonymous]

Well my wild ass guess is that it's the beginning (short of goal) of what I've been hoping for.
That is somehow getting my plans to be intelligent regarding our IBC based codes. More specifically to identify when we have met the criteria or bases for, or basics of, what we call "Conventional Light Frame Construction". This allows us as designers in at least my neck of the woods,(Calif) to design (within it's defined perimeters) up to two story residences WITHOUT structural engineering.
Sure liability exists, but what else is new?
Stay within the defined code and you at least have a wrapper of protection.
A beginning?
lec

[Steve Jepson]

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