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2009-02-13 03:35 PM
Hence wrote:That's not objective. Most people on this site will agree that the two programs are both good, just different.
I feel that ArchiCAD is inferior to Revit.
2009-02-13 04:08 PM
Matthew wrote:See. Matthew has actually said something that someone else might actually be able compare - objectively. Or is that important to anybody?
It does seem to be difficult to switch from Revit to ArchiCAD. I have yet to see anyone do it successfully. I think the problem is that Revit's strengths are evident early in the learning process whereas ArchiCAD's advantages show up on more advanced levels.
My own experience has been that Revit was very easy to get started with but as I pushed it further and harder it became progressively more difficult and frustrating. The clunky interface makes it tedious to do common tasks requiring multiple clicks and scrolls (like turning the section box on and off in the 3D view). Selecting and editing elements seems much harder (no info box, pet palette, find & select, and so on.) I also find that Revit's performance on large models lags well behind ArchiCAD, especially with the multi-processor support in 12.
When ArchiCAD was as simple as Revit (about 10 years ago) it was reasonable (though still not advisable) to learn it on the job. It is no longer reasonable. It is very unfortunate, and unwise, that your firm is not providing you with proper training.
2009-02-14 03:00 AM
2009-02-18 03:42 AM
JaredBanks wrote:I think one of the big challenges Archicad trainers face in this aspect is that they don't know the product being compared.Dwight wrote:Dwight! Always a fountain of wisdom.
Recite this:
"Quit whining and learn Archicad or find another job in these recessive times, even if Obama will fix things before Easter."Thanks for reminding me not to doubt my instincts. I never had trouble getting that message across with former Autocad users. I don't know much REVIT, so my internal monologue doesn't as readily see the flaws in the whining. Not that that is a good excuse.
Any other thoughts non-hostile?
2009-02-18 04:01 AM
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2009-02-18 06:04 PM
TomWaltz wrote:Some time ago Graphisoft came out with a book 'Archicad for Autocad Users'. Very helpful for those of us who have never used Autocad. Perhaps it's time for a new manual 'Archicad for Revit Users'?
I think one of the big challenges Archicad trainers face in this aspect is that they don't know the product being compared.
A good number of us knew Autocad and it's uses well enough to talk someone through doing a similar task or getting the same end result in Archicad.
It's a lot harder to do that if you don't know the other program and it's terminology or functions. It's even worse when it's a legitimate competing product that actually does has some up-sides over Archicad ("Archicad vs Autocad" and "Archicad vs Revit" are two VERY different arguments).
The best thing I'd recommend is a military strategy: learn about your enemy. Pick up a Revit book, download the demo, and play with it a little. Get to know a little bit about what your new users want to be able to do. Then you will be better equipped to help them adjust.
2009-02-18 06:09 PM