ArchiCAD 10

[Anonymous]

GS please give us a list of ac 10 will be able to do

many users are dissapointed by the progress of the last versions and thinking about switching from archicad to another cad software.

[Chadwick]

I agree that it is not overly impressive (sun studies? ok, I guess...) but adding things like the material quantity/ cost estimate takeoffs is huge. I know ArchiCAD has had this ability for a little while now so it doesn't seem that great. The key here I think is that Revit is 'catching up' for lack of a better phrase. ArchiCAD needs to distinguish itself quickly to separate itself from Revit and its alarming rate of development.

I remember someone posting somewhere a story about how Adobe overtook Quark in page layout software after Quark developed rather slowly because it had limited competition. I would hate to see ArchiCAD go down the same road.

[Rakela Raul]

they will get to the point that both of them will do the same, and it will be a matter of which is simpler, which talk to the rest of the softwares more fluently, and others enticement to the users, cheaper, etc
and they will probably will be surpassed by microstation and its immense 3d abilities with a brand new architectural software copied from the best of all....uff too much coffee

[Dwight]

The Quark/InDesign comparison to Revit/ArchiCAD is right on - Adobe used more money and all of their peripheral resources to develop an integrated layout program while quark languished.

It was an interesting battle for a while.

As InDesign overtook Quark, I remember a desktop publishing seminar where the Quark guy ineptly trotted out the same old stuff and the Adobe guys were finding new problems to solve. Sort of like Autodesk's recent ad on the back page of Cadalyst magazine showing the guys kicking the cabbage.

[Scott Davis]

Chadwick wrote:
I agree that it is not overly impressive (sun studies? ok, I guess...)

Not even impressive that Revit is now IFC 2x2 certified? (import and export)

[TomWaltz]

Scott wrote:

Chadwick wrote:
I agree that it is not overly impressive (sun studies? ok, I guess...)

Not even impressive that Revit is now IFC 2x2 certified? (import and export)

It's nice that Revit finally got that. It's not what I was call exciting though, certainly not to the average architect.

[__archiben]

Scott wrote:
Not even impressive that Revit is now IFC 2x2 certified? (import and export)

the PDF still says only 'import' . . .

page 4 and page 18 . . .
http://downloads.taylor-tech.com/pdfs/Whats_New_in_Revit_Building_9_January_Final0.pdf

or could it always export?

~/archiben

[Scott Davis]

It's both import and export. Revit 8.1 could export. 9.0 can do both.

[__archiben]

Scott wrote:
It's both import and export. Revit 8.1 could export. 9.0 can do both.

good news! we'll have to exchange a few models AC>REVIT>AC>etc and see how round-trips it takes before we have a complete disaster on our hands!

[edit]btw - that wasn't a revit knock - it was served up to both in equals measures[/edit]

~/archiben

[Scott Davis]

~/archiben wrote:
[edit]btw - that wasn't a revit knock - it was served up to both in equals measures[/edit]

No, I understood your "tone", didn't take it as a knock. 🙂 IFC 2x3 was just published in February, so I wonder if AC10 will be 2x3 compliant? If not, it could mean (ironically) that Revit could be 2x3 compliant before AC.

[Chadwick]

What I meant when I said not overly impressive was kind of catering to the folks here at Archicad-Talk in the sense that a lot of the features Revit is sporting as new have already existed in ArchiCAD so to an ArchiCAD user they are not overly impressive. Like I said previously, Revit is matching ArchiCAD's features fairly quickly which is scary for an ArchiCAD user.

On the other hand, as a Revit user I am super excited about some of these things. IFC import and export is wonderful - it would allow for a lot easier compatability between software, especially if you're in a office where both Revit and ArchiCAD are used. Healthy competition between both companies is only going to result in a better product for both ArchiCAD and Revit users. I dread the day when one holds the entire market share.