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2007-01-15 11:08 AM
2007-05-10 07:47 PM
TomWaltz wrote:How about the potential reduction in coordination errors? Having the detail references more "live" means less chance that a builder will be referred to the wrong detail. That's got to be worth something. (Don't ask me how I know.
That's my problem. I don't believe there's enough to save every single user one hour (total: 32 work hours) every week.
2007-05-10 07:55 PM
Richard wrote:I've been a fan of BIM for some time now, with "potential reduction in coordination errors" as a major selling point. To some extent, though, the drawings still have to be checked and redmarks picked up.TomWaltz wrote:How about the potential reduction in coordination errors? Having the detail references more "live" means less chance that a builder will be referred to the wrong detail. That's got to be worth something. (Don't ask me how I know.
That's my problem. I don't believe there's enough to save every single user one hour (total: 32 work hours) every week.)
2007-05-10 09:15 PM
TomWaltz wrote:
I've found most people can fill in a marker without a computer's help and it really does not take any longer.
2007-05-10 09:19 PM
Laura wrote:Hey, hey... none of that: no depressing the visitors
You've been kinda negative lately, Tom -- play around with Revit awhile, maybe that will cheer you up.
2007-05-10 09:50 PM
metanoia wrote:It is always good to hear from you from the other side (the greener!?)Laura wrote:Hey, hey... none of that: no depressing the visitors
You've been kinda negative lately, Tom -- play around with Revit awhile, maybe that will cheer you up.
2007-05-10 09:50 PM
Laura wrote:We do interior elevations by the dozen, but we've never needed to fake the markers. I should have specified, the markers we have needed to fake (usually the detail within a detail) usually do not require much.TomWaltz wrote:
I've found most people can fill in a marker without a computer's help and it really does not take any longer.
REALLY? This has not been my experience at all. Drawings are moving around all of the time (especially when you create a Layout Book @ SD's -- there'sno wayit will be arranged the same way by the time you wrap up CD's). Filling in a marker is one thing, managing it is another.
And you must not do many interior elevations? I believe everyone will save an hour a week with the interior elevation feature alone.
You've been kinda negative lately, Tom -- play around with Revit awhile, maybe that will cheer you upSeeing AC11 had that effect on me. I really had my hopes up for something earth shattering... more of a bang than a whimper..
2007-05-10 09:54 PM
"Laura Yanoviak" wrote:
I'm going through the same thing right now (32 seats) -- I think you have to look at the time saved per user per week and the average weekly salary: If all users save 1 hour a week (and I believe they will, given the new features), the upgrade pays for itself. That's my argument, anyway (we'll see if it works)...
To save one hour with AC 10 I had to learn and experiment and explore...
One example is the logical link system with marker and navigator.
To do such like job we need time to exercise.
I use often profile manager for every possible construction-part.
Curved wall with this will be nice but without curved wall it is also OK.
Still I need more exercise to save one hour with AC 10.
Still I am happy with AC 10.
I consider AC 12 but AC11....
2007-05-10 10:00 PM
TomWaltz wrote:You do know about the promotion going on right now, where an AC11 upgrade is $695 via the subscription?
With the latest price increase from GS, Autocad with Revit is now cheaper annually than Archicad is... ($895 for Archicad, $725 for Autocad/Revit)...
2007-05-10 10:03 PM
Laura wrote:I didn't know that I've heard nothing from my reseller (anyone want a new client?). They only told me about the price increase.TomWaltz wrote:You do know about the promotion going on right now, where an AC11 upgrade is $695 via the subscription?
With the latest price increase from GS, Autocad with Revit is now cheaper annually than Archicad is... ($895 for Archicad, $725 for Autocad/Revit)...
2007-05-10 11:02 PM
TomWaltz wrote:Me neither -- I stumbled upon it on another reseller's website, and gave my guy a call.
I've heard nothing from my reseller