Archicad 10 is announced

[Greg Kmethy]

Dear Talkers,

You can read Graphisoft's announcement on Archicad 10 here:
http://www.graphisoft.com/products/archicad/ac10/

[Bruce]

What can I say? I'm pretty happy about the xp thing

[Anonymous]

Me, I am most pleased...
Not everything I ever wanted... but enough to be most pleased.

Is the upgrade available now in the US?

Or is it another few weeks out?

I am ready to can plotmaker in a big way.....

And the third person shooter 3d navigation, well how cool is that?


-mellow Santa Cruz dude-

[Anonymous]

How long AC been compatible with OSX? -- and still there is no support for any of the stuff that makes OSX such a nice place to do business

There are still cool features that you mac guys have which are missing in a windows environment.

In particular minimising any window to the dock is a really useful feature that I miss on a PC. When you minimise a window in ArchiCAD on a PC it is located within the entire application window, hidden underneath the active floating window, and therefore not visible.

There looks to be plenty of good stuff in 10.

[Anonymous]

I think Vista addresses the hidden window problem with transparency feature.

MH

[Anonymous]

To throw my headband into the ring a moment, if the question is whether ArchiCAD is more Windows-like than it need be, we should consider the interface of other applications that Mac-base architecture firms use.

Does ArchiCAD have superior market share among firms using Mac? If it doesn't, are there other applications that do well against ArchiCAD due to better integration into OS X and better overall designer experience?

If so, then, can ArchiCAD get there?

Tools (to be proud of) are crucial to a vigorous workforce...

[Anonymous]

Ted wrote:
To throw my headband into the ring a moment, if the question is whether ArchiCAD is more Windows-like than it need be, we should consider the interface of other applications that Mac-base architecture firms use.

Does ArchiCAD have superior market share among firms using Mac? If it doesn't, are there other applications that do well against ArchiCAD due to better integration into OS X and better overall designer experience?

If so, then, can ArchiCAD get there?

Tools (to be proud of) are crucial to a vigorous workforce...

The only serious competitor to AC on the Mac (AFAIK) is Vectorworks, and most seem to consider it the choice for those who can't afford AC. I haven't used it since OSX was viable (10.1) so I can't say how well they have incorporated cool Mac stuff.

Those of us who have been around long enough have seen AC go from a Mac only program (through version 4.5 I think) to becoming more and more influenced by a Windows style UI (like the browser on the left of the library part settings dialog).

On the other hand GS has been doing a lot of things right as well. In my opinion they outdid Adobe in the palette snapping area. When I click the green button on a drawing window (plan, 3D, section, detail) it fits to the available space between the open palettes. InDesign spreads out over the whole screen with all the palettes on top and in the way.

Overall I'm still pretty happy with the AC-Mac interface. The one big gap is the lack of the system spell checker.

[Djordje]

Chazz wrote:
However the lack of the Apple universal binary Logo anywhere in GS's marketing material is distressing. What's up?

http://www.appleinsider.com/article.php?id=1641

[godi]

Rob wrote:

Every new ArchiCAD since the first window version, is more powerfull but less intuitive and more difficult to use and learn.

this is not a problem of the UI mate...as Miki suggested...

Now, I do not understand you guys on Mac platform... you sound like you had that cringe about anything that is not using mac gadgets and even on different platforms. I've got nothing against macs but I am more efficient on win platform and vice versa for someone else but when I am working on any particular platform I WANT TO USE NATIVE SYSTEM RESOURCES. Mimicking features (and especially graphic ones) of other platforms is a ridiculous idea...

I'm not talking about mac gadgets. Is mainly the way the program works.

Some examples:

The navegation of the the library in the settings dialog is totally windows: embarrasing, almost stupid, you need to scroll continuously in the upper part, and the list of items in the lower part is even worse.

The complet section of Schedules, list of materials, etc, is a nightmare. It seems Bill Gates in person as made this. I'm sure you can't imagine a worse version.

You can say this is not strictly Windoze, but, casualy, before the first window version (and, I think, the new programmers) there was none of all this.

And about icons and interface, I don't like YOU have our interface, I only don't want yours. And if, as it seems, you, windows users, don't give any importance to this, please Graphisoft use mac interface.

[Bruce]

What can I say? I'm pretty happy about the xp thing

[Anonymous]

godi - how old are you ? I don't want to sound rude but you sound like 15 years old. About icons Do you remember how icons looked when AC was just MAC ? Belive me now is muuuuch better. If they would made it more Aqua icons would had to be bigger, taking more space. I'm having problems right now with 19" screen, what screen I would have to buy to work efficient with that kind of interface ? What is now I think is good compromise.