NCornia wrote:
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But, if the wishlist area is in fact to matter then you should get as many people to vote as possible on each request. Use the most popular areas of the forum, such as "Working in ArchiCAD", which contains nearly a third of all posts on the entire forum, as a funnel to really push people to vote. Link and re-link to the wishlist as it applies to each post. If someone has a question about stairs, post a message that says, "By the way, to all reading this post, vote here '()' on this feature, your voice matters!"
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Hopelessly optimistic for the future of ArchiCAD.
Cheers!
One more thing;
You might not have noticed but people do actually still post wishes in this forum. Only they don't bother doing it in the wishlist section anymore. They post them in the regular forum sections that they regularly visit and if you even look at his same very thread you'll find wishes posted in a not so formal manner.
In this particular section (ArchiCAD +) you're gauranteed to find wishes in virtually every single one of the first 5 (at least) non-sticky threads - some posted as recently as a few days ago even though not necessarily phrased as wishes.
I made a partially tongue-in-cheek comment a little while back about how the Wishlist section is like an actual real-life deep Wishing well, where you spend your money (or in this case you time and effort) only to never ever see neither your money (or effort/time) ever again nor the actual wish ever being fulfilled.
I suspect that many people feel as I do, and as someone else in this thread has already noted - that the Wishlist section is a very depressing, if not maddening and frustrating place to visit.
So the thought of actually going around to recruit people from other sections to go vote in it, seems to me like it would be the ultimate exercise in futility.
You seem like you either recently joined this forum or have not been actively participating for too long, hence the, in your own words - "hopeless optimism".
Don't let the perpetual unfulfilled expectations beat that optimism out of as if with a stick.
ArchiCAD 15 does indeed seem to be a step in the right direction.
At a minimum it says to me that they are not completely immune to the complaints of their users, and that some of these things that people constantly harp on about on this forum actually get through to them even if through a long and winding road.
But I still strongly believe that their path to developing a much better and ultimately more competitive and superior software would be greatly smoothened and shortened if they took the tack of actually not just listening and observing (as we're perpetually told they do) but also actively engaging with their users.
I've beta-tested with other software, and also talked with the developers of other softwares - some bigger; some smaller than AC and GS - and the experience while not always 100% fulfilling is really enlightening for the users, but also ultimately helpful to the developers themselves.
In the Chaosgroup forum (the developers of Vray) you'll constantly find Vlado - the person who actually created the software - constantly answering users' questions and talking with them. Brad Peebler, the developer and creator of Modo does the same in the Luxology forums. Ditto Chema in the Fryrender/RandomControl software and forums. The developers of Maxwell and the creator also used to do the same until they had their little fiasco with their RC/Beta program, after which point they hired a full time PR person to deal with the PR direct engagement issues. But the developers still talk to the users.
I could go on and on and on....giving even examples of Graphisot's own direct competitors (Autodesk where KenPimental talks to users both at Autodesk's Area forums and at CGArchitect.com), but you get the point.
Keep the positivity and optimism. They are great attributes to have in these days.
But as a long time user and forum visitor, I genuinely worry for you.
) here represent. My guess is that we represent a small minority, but nonetheless a very important minority as some of the most accomplished ArchiCAD users reside here I am sure. I also feel that posting things in an any online forum is not the most proactive way to get your voice heard anyway. I mean who comes here on a regular basis but the diehards? And don't get me wrong, I love it. I have become hooked over the past year to ArchiCAD and this forum and love all the posts and contributors. But in the end I know the forum is a small community and not necessarily the bull horn that is going to get the major attention from Graphisoft or the world at large.
