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Changing same objects

Anonymous
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Hello,
I can not find how to do this and is it possible to do this in Archicad at all. For example: in Revit I create one house floor with 3 types of flats with its elements. It means you can group those flats in 3 different blocks and you copy it them many times, lets say I make 6 floor house with those 3 flats. And, if I will change one element in one flat, this element will change at the same time in all the rest of the same flats that has been changed. Or I can edit something by Edit Group.
Question is, is it possible to create some block or group in that way, that if I decide to change something in my created block or group, that the others same blocks or groups will change automatically? And how?

Thank you and sorry for my American/English
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stefan
Advisor
In ArchiCAD, you do this with Modules: external ArchiCAD Project files that you can host in another ArchiCAD project. Changes can be propagated into the host file.
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Anonymous
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Well, i am a begineer with Archicad, so could you please tell me more details how to do it? thank you
stefan
Advisor
http://helpcenter.graphisoft.com/guides/archicad-18-int-reference-guide/collaboration/hotlinked-modu...
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Laszlo Nagy
Community Admin
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Yes, Hotlinked Modules would be the close equivalent to Revit Groups. The difference is that in Revit you can create a Group out of several elements. Then you can copy this Group as many times as you want. If you modify any instance of the Group, all other instances of the Group will also update.
In ArchiCAD, Grouping is also possible, but when you group several elements, it only means that you can click any of them and all of them will be selected, so they can be moved or copied together.
In ArchiCAD, you normally save several selected elements as a Module file or a PLN file, then place that as a Hotlinked Module. It is also possible that you create a separate PLN file, save it and place that as a Hotlinked Module. After it is placed, you can move it around as a single entity, copy it in as many instances as you want. A placed Hotlinked Module is not editable, it behaves as a locked (uneditable) ArchiCAD group.
(Please note that there is a suspend groups command, which enables you to manipulate and edit the individual elements of the group. When you finished editing you can toggle the Suspend Groups toggle again, so the group is again treated as one unit. The way this related to placed Hotlinked Modules is that when suspend groups is ON, you will not be able to move a Hotlinked Module, since it can be moved only as a single group of elements.
If you want to modify the placed Hotlinked Module, you have to open its source file in a separate ArchiCAD instance, modify it there, save it, then update your Hotlinked Modules in your host file. Hotlinked modules can have other Hotlinked modules nested in them as well, they can be single story or multi story, there are many possibilities.
But the main point is: Revit groups are edited within the Project file, while ArchiCAD Hotlinked Modules are edited in a separate ArchiCAD instance and placed (kind of like Linking a Revit file in Revit).
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Anonymous
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Thank you very much, I will try
Eduardo Rolon
Moderator
laszlonagy wrote:

If you want to modify the placed Hotlinked Module, you have to open its source file in a separate ArchiCAD instance, modify it there, save it, then update your Hotlinked Modules in your host file. Hotlinked modules can have other Hotlinked modules nested in them as well, they can be single story or multi story, there are many possibilities.
But the main point is: Revit groups are edited within the Project file, while ArchiCAD Hotlinked Modules are edited in a separate ArchiCAD instance and placed (kind of like Linking a Revit file in Revit).
There is a workaround to having the Module within the AC file and that is to:

1. Select the Elements that you need for the Module
2. Choose "Save Module" and UNCHECK substitute elements with SAVED MODULE
3. To edit you only need to work with the original group of elements, resave the module and Update which is a manual process.

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