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Composite Junction

Bruce
Advisor
Any ideas how to get this displaying correctly?

Thanks in advance

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Rod Jurich
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Bruce wrote:
Any ideas how to get this displaying correctly?

Thanks in advance
Bruce can you send me a .mod file via private mail. Your reference lines do not meet which will prevent a clean intersection.
Rod Jurich
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Bruce
Advisor
No, that's a gridline.

The refence lines follow the outside of the building, which I can't see a way of lining up at this junction without causing problems elsewhere.

Here's another pic
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Bruce
Advisor
Tried private mail, but no attachments allowed.

Thanks for offering to have a look. Here is the mod file. The wall extending out to the right is an external buttress. The reference lines of the others form the perimeter of the building.
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__archiben
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one of those conditions where a "reverse composite" is required i'm afraid . . .

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the mod mod . . .
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Bruce
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A pain to be sure - but it works.

Cheers Archiben
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Bruce wrote:
A pain to be sure - but it works.
i tend to work to the principle that wall reference lines should run along the outside edge of the wall's core (i offset if i'm using an external lining that is a part of the composite) . . . this has always helped avoid most of the painful clean up issues, and with the new wall skin priorities you now have a far greater control over how an interior wall will clean up to this external reference line as well.

build your composites with the reference line at the top of the skin list, external to internal . . .

there are still occasions where you'll need to come around the wicket, but . . .

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Rod Jurich
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~/archiben wrote:
Bruce wrote:
A pain to be sure - but it works.
i tend to work to the principle that wall reference lines should run along the outside edge of the wall's core/..........

build your composites with the reference line at the top of the skin list, external to internal . . .

there are still occasions where you'll need to come around the wicket, but . . .

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Well done Ben, helps to be in the same time zone. Too often some hesitate to think outside of the square. ':idea:'

There is no specific rule, that I'm aware of, that says the reference line must be on the outer skin.

The way our cavity walls work here I've set my reference line to the inner face of our cavity walls. Therefore reference lines generally always meet and you have clean intersections where inner single skin walls meet multi skin walls.
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Rod wrote:
The way our cavity walls work here I've set my reference line to the inner face of our cavity walls. Therefore reference lines generally always meet and you have clean intersections where inner single skin walls meet multi skin walls.
That's how I've done it for years. Either face of stud or face of finish depending on the practice.