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Help with Vaulted Roof!

Anonymous
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I need to trim the hip to the vault. Can someone please guide me in the right direction?

Justin

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Link
Graphisoft Partner
Graphisoft Partner
He's been pretty quiet since the Ashes series. Having said that I think I will lay off all betting for the World Cup, and just wait for footy season!

Cheers,
Link.
Anonymous
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Link wrote:
s2art wrote:
Duh, what was I thinking. Been doing a lot of that on weird shaped roofs that would have transferred to this barrel vault situation....

I need a holiday
You should have at least gone to the cricket!

Cheers,
Link.
I KNOW!!! In my home town last night and everything, how bad is that. Might have lost a few more brain cells though, and then where would I be?
Rod wrote:
Careful Link, now that the Kiwis have beaten us 3 nil,
Anonymous
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Hello Link,
I tried your method. At least I think it is your method because
control + click does not do anything so I assume you have
changed the default command + click to intersect two roofs
to each other. Anyway, using command + click all of the
little rooflits were trimmed back to their intersection edges
with the plane roof. There are some surprises, at least for me.
If you look at the image below, you will notice that the
rooflits near the spring line of the vault have trimmed to
a plane that is as though the plane roof extended farther
than it in fact does. Also notice that the rooflits are attempting
to miter with the edge of the plane roof even though
edge of the plane roof had not been edited to fit the
edges of the rooflits.
I have not been able to get each facet of the plane roof
cutout and the corresponding rooflit edge to properly miter.
I am wondering how to avoid or correct some of these problems
Thanks,
Peter Devlin
Link
Graphisoft Partner
Graphisoft Partner
Hey Peter

I have gotten into the bad habit of just giving PC shortcuts. You'll need to convert them to Mac for me! Hence the ctrl click issue. You may also need to suspend groups for the barrel vault, but I'm sure you got that figured out.

As for the join, that's an integral problem with healing roofs together and is why I added the note that you may need to mitre the joints. Just select all the roofs, and click and hold on the edge that joins them. Then choose the 'set roof edge angle' pet palette option and use the Mitred Joint option to mitre the joints. You'll have to do each rooflet individually, but it'll get the job done.

Cheers,
Link.
Link
Graphisoft Partner
Graphisoft Partner
What's more of a mystery is why all your posts are written like poems!

Cheers,
Link.
Anonymous
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Hello Link,
Do you mean by "are written like poems" that they are
in a columner form ?
I find it much easier to read text this way. I get lost reading
a very long horizontal lines of text.
News papers must think the same way because they do the same thing.
I assume that news papers do this because they have
found that readers prefer this but maybe there is another reason.
Is this form harder for you to read than very long lines of text ?
Which do you prefer ?
Thanks,
Peter Devlin
Link
Graphisoft Partner
Graphisoft Partner
The format of your posts is fine as is the quality, may I add. I just figured you cut and pasted them from somehwere else which changed the formatting.

Jeesh - you must hate reading some of my longwinded posts then!

Hope you got the roof junction figured out.

Cheers,
Link.
Anonymous
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Hello Link,
I tried your suggestion about going to the "set roof edge angle"
but there is no "Mitred Joint option". All I have is
"vertical", "perpendicular" ,"horizontal", "custom", and "apply to all edges".
Where is this "Mitred Joint" option ?
Thanks,
Peter Devlin
Anonymous
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Peter

The "rooflits" that don't meet the roof can be stretched back to the fascia line of the main roof. Add a node where part of the edge meets the roof, part hangs over the fascia. All should be well.
Anonymous
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Hello Link,
I just found the "Mitred Joint option".
I never ran into that one because I never
had the occasion to select all roofs, enable
the roof tool, and go to edit roof edge angle.
Learn something every moment. Thank God !!
Thanks Link
Peter Devlin