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Longhorn and Archi CAD 10 and Light works and Artlantis R.

Anonymous
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I am very confused, with my hardware and sotware...
What can we expect from AC 10?
Supergraphicpower over Artlantis R? (Shall I wait to buy something?)
New Layoutsystem?
What happen with Light work (it has disapointed me...very difficult tu use... but strong lendering....in the future will be better?)
No hardwareproblem with Longhorn?

Please give some tipps!!!
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gpowless
Advocate
I think that GS should go out on a limb and trust us a little biit more. Most of us will evntually upgrade, anyway. That isn't the problem.

If we knew which direction GS was going with Archicad10, we could determine if we needed to upgrade other tools, or have some idea that they will be incorporated in the new release. That has always been the problem with waiting to that last minute. If I need to upgrade hardware, operating systems , or other add-ons, how can I make an informed decision without first knowing if the reason for doing it is valid? I mean Archicad is my business tool, like a hammer is to a carpenter. I can still use the old hammer as slow as it is, but if there is a speed hammer on the horizon, and I need a new hammer anyways how do I know when to buy?

I hope you get my drift.....
Intel i7-6700@3.4GHz 16g
GeForce GTX 745 4g HP Pavilion 25xw
Windows 10 Archicad 26 USA Full
Anonymous
Not applicable
Absolutly.
Just userfriendly software can win in the future.
GS must have openmind, first of all for the new version.
Rendering skill from AC or Artlantis...it makes me slowly angry.
To buy Artlantis can be ok.
But I must learn very hard for Light work (very suddenly since AC9).
Additionally shall I learn Artlantis R. as profi.?
What will come in AC10?
Must I learn Light Works R.?
GS must show enough examples from AC-Light works.
GS shows permanantly just examples from other rendering programms...

Where shall I take my good old hammer?
Anonymous
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samsung wrote:
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But I must learn very hard for Light work (very suddenly since AC9).
Where shall I take my good old hammer?
trade in that old hammer for Dwight's book. Your LightWorks frustrations will be history.

seriously,

Wally
stefan
Advisor
Information on new versions is usually confidential... Little chance to get full answers about ArchiCAD 10 here.

Rendering is not the core intent of ArchiCAD. The best renderings IMHO are still being made in external animation software: 3ds max, Maya, Lightwave, Cinema4D, XSI... but the ArchiCAD engine (incl. Lightworks) is good for day-to-day work. When you need to deliver cutting edge, look for a cutting edge tool.
--- stefan boeykens --- bim-expert-architect-engineer-musician ---
Archicad28/Revit2024/Rhino8/Solibri/Zoom
MBP2023:14"M2MAX/Sequoia+Win11
Archicad-user since 1998
my Archicad Book
Anonymous
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the only sure answer is that we will update oure hardware for longhorn as we did with all micro$$oft OS I hope they wont need 1gig ram and 128mb cg card as recomended hardware only for the os
stefan
Advisor
syber wrote:
the only sure answer is that we will update oure hardware for longhorn as we did with all micro$$oft OS I hope they wont need 1gig ram and 128mb cg card as recomended hardware only for the os
You can probably assume that the OS is only really happy with a new PC and these specs (1 GB RAM and 128MB on the graphics card) are quite common today. I don't expect to try Longhorn on my home machine (5 year old P3 600 MHz with 256MB RAM, which was a Workstation back then).

And as always, rendering requires as much CPU as possible.

Microsoft will probably allow to disable a part of the display settings, so an older PC can run Longhorn, but not in it's full glassy "glory".

Personally, I'm more concerned with the possible conflicts between a full-3D hardware-accelerated interface in Direct3D that might prevent or hinder or limit a 3D or CAD-application full access to the same graphics adapter, but using Hardware-accelerated OpenGL. This is what conserns many professional CAD-users.
I read an interview with someone from ATI that mentioned the possibility to tackle such situations, provided Microsoft gave full API access to enable this, which wasn't at that time. Things might improve, though.
--- stefan boeykens --- bim-expert-architect-engineer-musician ---
Archicad28/Revit2024/Rhino8/Solibri/Zoom
MBP2023:14"M2MAX/Sequoia+Win11
Archicad-user since 1998
my Archicad Book
Anonymous
Not applicable
I have Longhorn installed (beta testing) but havent tried AC9 on it (yet). Have to get past 7400sf commercial building Im doing. then I will have a 'little' breathing room to play beta-tester. If any of you haven't seen it yet... heres a little peek:

http://www.only4gurus.com/v3/longhorn.asp for list of screenshots

looks pretty... Mac-ISH:
http://www.only4gurus.com/longhorn/pages/vista5270_089.asp

Anyway I hear its slated for fall?

Also, I have to agree it would be "nice" to have a small "peek" at what might be coming and a rough idea of when? For example:
Is the internal rendering engine going to be upgraded?
-> Why #1? So we can make a decision to shell out CASH for additional rendering firepower.
-> Why? #2? So we can know when to stop giving our kids allowance so we can afford it... heh heh...
Dwight
Newcomer
The internal rendering engine will not be upgraded due to the need for legacy support.

In ArchiCAD 9 the LightWorks rendering engine was added and is adequate for most tasks.
Dwight Atkinson
TomWaltz
Participant
Dwight wrote:
In ArchiCAD 9 the LightWorks rendering engine was added and is adequate for most tasks.
You're getting soft in your old age, Dwight. You just called Lightworks "adequate"!!
Tom Waltz