Model a car

[eldhead]

Best method for modeling a car wanted.

/Johan

[Anonymous]

Best method for cars is not to be modelled, IMHO. If it's about still images.
Cut-out cars are good because they are:

- already rendered
- realistic (cause they're real car)
- ergonomic/lightweight
- easy to find (use popular wallpapers)

A fine model car which is developed on a pure 3d environment could cost you around 700Kb.
Cut-outs also applied for trees and peoples. You can try to put them with Piranesi intead of Photoshop.

Any Opinion?

[Anonymous]

amazing collection here (in AC format)

http://www.studio-arkada.com.pl/pliki/elementybiblioteczne/gsm/elementy3d/elem3D_samochody_0.htm

which i trust is legal

as andrea said, watch the memory overload

don't even THINK of trying to model something like a car in AC (or even modelling it in another program and importing it). nothing will kill AC faster

bill

[Djordje]

Andrea wrote:
Best method for cars is not to be modelled, IMHO. If it's about still images.
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Any Opinion?

"Now just move the camera leto the left a little ..." Duuuuh ... "OK, this view is great, but let's have three more" ... Duuuuuuuh ...

In time constrained environments, it takes LESS time to use full 3D cars than cutouts, Photoshop or Piranesi (much better, of course). Also does wonders in perspective matching, levitating, shadows, reflections, lighting.

Besides the excellent effort of the Poles, there are quite a few REAL cars on OOL produced by Alfaville, good selection on Anniversary CD and old libraries like People&More (somewhat boxy).

There is also a full VW range, but seemingly there is not enough commercial interest?

Forget about bringing in DXFs unless you don't have deadlines ...

And, in Art•Lantis 45, there is a good selection of car billboards at archicado.

HTH ?

[Anonymous]

For fast and easy cars there is also DNC's "Motorist" collection. These are great for schematic town planning studies since they are simple and fast to render, and don't distract or seem out of place in the context of the simple urban study. He also has feature that allows you to fill a car park in a flash.

Djordje, I think the lack of commercial interest in paying for car models (I assume that this is what you mean) is because we are interested as Architects in the buildings and urban spaces and don't feel like spending a lot of money on props.

For most purposes I find the vehicles that came with the 20th anniversary edition to be quite suitable.

[eldhead]

"Now just move the camera leto the left a little ..." Duuuuh ... "OK, this view is great, but let's have three more" ...

Yep, thats my problem!

[Djordje]

Matthew wrote:
Djordje, I think the lack of commercial interest in paying for car models (I assume that this is what you mean) is because we are interested as Architects in the buildings and urban spaces and don't feel like spending a lot of money on props.

Agreed. However, if you do a VW dealership ... Live example: the company I work for has long standing and firm relationship with the local Nissan distributor; therefore I would love to have full Nissan range of cars, 4WDs and trucks. Has nothing to do with props - let's say, I am currently redesigning one of their workshop facilities. What is the shape and the size of a car or a truck, not to mention turning radiuses, does quite influence the design. It is not a prop, it is design data.

Matthew wrote:
For most purposes I find the vehicles that came with the 20th anniversary edition to be quite suitable.

Oh, I am quite happy with them myself

[Djordje]

eldhead wrote:

"Now just move the camera leto the left a little ..." Duuuuh ... "OK, this view is great, but let's have three more" ...

Yep, thats my problem!

I know. You can waste a significant amount of time by leaving the "props" for Photoshop or Piranesi. And, you have to re-waste YOUR time if the change comes ... wait, what do I mean by "ïf"???? - WHEN it comes.

Work with EVERYTHING in 3D (OK, not clouds ...) and plan the work in such a way that the computer does its job (e.g. rendering) when you are not there. Saves loads of days and weeks!

[Anonymous]

Djordje wrote:
Agreed. However, if you do a VW dealership ...

Of course it is a different case when the products are essential to the design; like the difference between propping a home kitchen and merchandizing a kitchen supply store.

It seems the client in this case should be willing to cover the cost of getting the accurate models (assuming they care enough about it - not all commercial clients do).