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2010-12-11 12:57 AM
2010-12-14 06:35 AM
Rod wrote:Right now there's a factor of 3 between exchange rate and PPP - before the economy opened out in the early '90s, it was probably around 5, so yeah, we should get close enough in another 20 or so years - unless the US economy tanks completely in which case the whole world will go into a spin and "we will all go down together".
I appreciate more now you explain an even more valid point about exchange rates/purchasing power.
The way the US economy is going you may have parity soon
Dwight wrote:Hi Dwight,
Without trying to sound like an angry idiot, my initial reaction was:
"Yeah, that's rough. OBJECTIVE, and my book and all of the other Archicad add-ons seem expensive for our colleagues in India, but those of us who live in the Western world have to make a living, too, now that the international electronically-connected world pursues basic rendering and drafting jobs for a fraction of our billing rates. [According the the weekly promotions I receive in my email]"
You can't afford add-ons and I can't heat my house [for example].
OBJECTIVE is a totally unique and powerful tool that pays itself overandover compensating for Archicad's horrific modeling deficiencies, unlike my books, say, where you could use time [like i did] to discover these things for yourself.
Even at the equivalent of $900. how many billing hours can you save in a year to pay for OBJECTIVE? Perhaps we should all invoice Graphisoft for those functions that SHOULD HAVE COME WITH THE BASIC LICENSE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Thank you, Ralph. At any price.
Gerald wrote:THAT, I did not know. I made the incorrect assumption that each new version would cost me all over again just like other plugins do. My bad. Thanks for the heads up, Gerald, it gives a whole new perspective to the situation. If 2011 sees better projects than this year has, I might well take the plunge and then we can all live happily ever after.
I'd like to echo Dwight here and also add that I have had OBJECTiVE for several versions of AC now and unlike a lot of other Add-ons he has not to date charged for updates.
2010-12-14 12:42 PM
vistasp wrote:Pricing presents a number of significant dilemmas. The bottom line is to at least recover the value of the time invested in development, marketing, and support. If I knew the size of the market, it would be easy to answer. Unfortunately, I have to guess.
what sounds like a reasonable fee in North America/Western Europe/ANZ is much less so in some other parts of the world. If you consider purchasing power parity as opposed to plain currency conversion, Objective would cost me the equivalent of US$ 900 instead of US$ 300.
2010-12-14 03:14 PM
Ralph wrote:Your dilemma is one thing I don't envy you for Ralph. Wish I could help you on the size of the market here but I just had a chat with my resellers, Adroitec Infotec, and gleaned nothing except a promise to discuss sales, should you contact them. Oh, and they tried to convince me to upgrade to 14 while they were at it.
Pricing presents a number of significant dilemmas. The bottom line is to at least recover the value of the time invested in development, marketing, and support. If I knew the size of the market, it would be easy to answer. Unfortunately, I have to guess.
Ralph wrote:I don't know about the rest of the world but out here unless a person is an active forum member, the likelihood is practically nil. When your modular door/window object (big thank you for that) was being distributed to those of us on subscription, nobody here had a clue about it until I prodded the resellers to contact GS-UK. Communication within the ecosystem (GS, developers, resellers and end users) is a whole other Pandora's box and this thread has already drifted
I wouldn't be surprised to learn that the vast majority of ArchiCAD users have never heard of Encina or OBJECTiVE.
Ralph wrote:Sadly, bang-on. Still, I have hope. After reading Gerald's post this morning, the price looks slightly less horrendous!
I realise the price must look horrendous in other countries, but I don't know how to redress the imbalance. I think local resellers might be an answer, but the reluctance to embrace 3rd party solutions is reflected here too.
2010-12-15 08:57 AM
ArchiCAD 25 7000 USA - Windows 10 Pro 64x - Dell 7720 64 GB 2400MHz ECC - Xeon E3 1535M v6 4.20GHz - (2) 1TB M.2 PCIe Class 50 SSD's - 17.3" UHD IPS (3840x2160) - Nvidia Quadro P5000 16GB GDDR5 - Maxwell Studio/Render 5.2.1.49- Multilight 2 - Adobe Acrobat Pro - ArchiCAD 6 -25
2010-12-16 04:23 AM
2010-12-16 02:04 PM
Steve wrote:OBJECTiVE is also ArchiCAD only. Graphisoft provide tools to suit users of varying skill levels:
you can do this with ArchiCAD only. I didn't do all the steps but from here it is just a matter of some SEO.
2010-12-17 09:41 AM
Erich wrote:Yes. I used SEO with upward extrusion. The reason I did that is because the pattern looks to me like it is already showing distortion. #3 above looks like it should to me. I thought SEO with upward extrusion might return the diamond shapes to squares which I thought was probably closer to the real pattern. My thinking was based on length of the ellipse as compared to the width of the pattern.
Steve,
Unless I am missing something, you are using the projection to do the SEO. In this case, you would get a distortion of the element sizes as the angle of the curve increases. If you are doing something else, please enlighten me.
ArchiCAD 25 7000 USA - Windows 10 Pro 64x - Dell 7720 64 GB 2400MHz ECC - Xeon E3 1535M v6 4.20GHz - (2) 1TB M.2 PCIe Class 50 SSD's - 17.3" UHD IPS (3840x2160) - Nvidia Quadro P5000 16GB GDDR5 - Maxwell Studio/Render 5.2.1.49- Multilight 2 - Adobe Acrobat Pro - ArchiCAD 6 -25
2010-12-17 03:23 PM