God Bless you in this new year!I'm have a problem with segmented geometry in elevation. In the office I work we are designing a classic building with a lot of details and a lot of rounded things (see the attached pics) and all rounded geometry is segmented in elevations and sections, and 1st it doesn't look good, 2nd I can't measure radius of the rounded windows, 3rd this bring workarounds that I need to make to get things right and to look professional.
See the attachments how everything is segmented.
And my question is, Is there a way to make this geometry as real curves without segmentation and that I can take radius from it?
The first pic is the main elevation
this one is a Profile smooth enough to use.
It was made by using the magic wand to create a slab between the lines and the arc, instead of a fill. The slab was exploded, and those lines and arcs pasted into the Profiler, then the magic wand was used to make the fill inside those lines. The arc was then a bunch of short lines rather than a smooth curve in the fill.
The result in the Profile Manager is a fill that is not nearly as smooth as the one used above, however, the resulting Profile is much smoother and is adequate enough to be used.
So the trick is to make the magic wand settings as smooth as possible and use that to make the fill, rather than trying to make the fill smoother by making a bunch of edges in to one smooth curve.
This is because of how the modeling kernel in ArchiCAD works.
The is another good example of why we need a different kind of modeling kernel in ArchiCAD. We need NURBS.
It was made by using the magic wand to create a slab between the lines and the arc, instead of a fill. The slab was exploded, and those lines and arcs pasted into the Profiler, then the magic wand was used to make the fill inside those lines. The arc was then a bunch of short lines rather than a smooth curve in the fill.
The result in the Profile Manager is a fill that is not nearly as smooth as the one used above, however, the resulting Profile is much smoother and is adequate enough to be used.
So the trick is to make the magic wand settings as smooth as possible and use that to make the fill, rather than trying to make the fill smoother by making a bunch of edges in to one smooth curve.
This is because of how the modeling kernel in ArchiCAD works.
The is another good example of why we need a different kind of modeling kernel in ArchiCAD. We need NURBS.
arqrivas wrote:You posted between my examples
That's exactly my problem!
Is there any way to solve or workaround that?
Both of these are Profiles and can be used like walls, beam, or a column just like any other Profile.
The one on the left is not usable. The one on the right is good enough for most stuff.
The one on the right is the one that was made by result of exploding a slab made with the same very smooth fill that was used in the Profiler to make a bad Profile.
You could do this with other methods as well. Like an exploded morph that was first made as smooth as you can get it first. It's the resulting little tiny lines of the curve that end up being better than a perfectly smooth curved edge of a fill. The ArchiCAD modeling kernel does not process the math formulas for a curve the same way a NURBS modeler does - this is why we
can't have smooth curves in ArchiCAD. Only approximations of a curve made up of little tiny lines.
Here is a very good example of GDL scripting for Resolution in the Molding Curved 02 19 object.
Sorry to post between your examples
And Thanks so much for the explanation. So knowing this, yess AC needs a new modeling Kernel that interpret curves as is(NURBS will be AWESOME, I can Just Imagine...
)
BTW, doesn't all those nodes draw lines in elevations? I mean when you have all those small segments, Cause if not I can handle that solution nicely.
PD: is there a wish on this?
PD PD: If write something that doesn't make sense is because English is not my native language. sorry
And Thanks so much for the explanation. So knowing this, yess AC needs a new modeling Kernel that interpret curves as is(NURBS will be AWESOME, I can Just Imagine...
)BTW, doesn't all those nodes draw lines in elevations? I mean when you have all those small segments, Cause if not I can handle that solution nicely.
PD: is there a wish on this?
PD PD: If write something that doesn't make sense is because English is not my native language. sorry
I have question when looking at your detail of the Complex Beam Profile. How do you prevent materials from connecting? Are these all different materials or is there some preference I'm not aware of?
Still looking?
