!Restored: ¿News about AC 12?

[Anonymous]

Hi all!


¿Anybody knows anything about AC 12, please?


I'm hearing rumours, but nothing concrete...


Thanks a lot and regards.



P.S. Like another user says: "forgive my spanglish..."

[Dwight]

Miki wrote:
we have a special 64 bit 8 core 167GB RAM machines for this project, .

Perhaps you just need more ram.

[Chadwick]

Um, we do our projects entirely in Revit. 100%. Surgery centers, banks, office buildings, even a house!

Don't blame the software just because someone can fall back on ACAD. I know people who did this very thing in the last firm I worked in that used ArchiCAD. It has nothing do with the software and everything to do with the user. I've completed large projects in both. And on Windows Vista!

[Rob]

... And on Windows Vista!

mate, I think you are entitled to get the medal for bravery...

[Anonymous]

jorgec wrote:
Patrick,
Jorgec,
Thank you for your answer,

.

If a guest ask a question he'll get honest answers.

Yes, answers from dedicated AC-users. But what I would have liked to see is answers/engagement from GS dedicated to their users. I find no dialog.
Wouldn´t it be good to sometime se a post from GS that meet up with a users question?

And what about all of the new tools/functions that AC-resellers talk about that later on shows that they don´t work all the way, as the profiler and curved walls. I know I can´t deliver halfdone work to my clients.

How come the "leading" AC-solution can´t model traditionel standing panels or facade-sidings in a rational way, like the API from Cadimagetool?

Is AC 3d-modelling/BIM or not?

It took AC two years to introduce the open gl-rendering engine after it was implemented in Vektorworks. Remarkable!

Step up GS, My demands are high, and they should.
Or is it that we get what we pay for? How much do I have to pay, since I noticed that engagemnet from dedicated users ain´t enough?

[TomWaltz]

Chadwick wrote:
Um, we do our projects entirely in Revit. 100%. Surgery centers, banks, office buildings, even a house!

Don't blame the software just because someone can fall back on ACAD. I know people who did this very thing in the last firm I worked in that used ArchiCAD. It has nothing do with the software and everything to do with the user. I've completed large projects in both. And on Windows Vista!

How is Revit's performance on the larger projects? As bad as others claim?

[Rakela Raul]

i thought this post below was relevant ...if not, just complain and will delete immediately.

Thanks to you all guys.
Let tell you what we are doing after all.

The project itself is a Terminal building for a new international airport. so its about 130.000. m2.

The basic solution we adapted was, split the main plp file into 6 new plp files:
1. Interiors (walls, ceilings, furniture, storefronts, etc...)
2. Structure (for Concrete and steel structure coordination)
3. Envelope ( for the all the exterior walls, claddings, glazing work, Roof, etc..)
4. Services Coordination (HVAC, fire, electrical, wet services, security, baggage handling, coordination)
5. Procurement (for all the documentation regarding specs, quantities, etc...)
6. Site ( for the terrain, roads, and the general exterior works.)

Of course all the Layout books are in different files, with the drawings linked to the specific plp where the view was saved. (... we have just missing those old pmk files.... quick access to a view trough a stand alone file)

The plp can see the others plp information with the hotlink, and not everyone need to see the services or the site, so we basically linked the structure, interiors and envelope.

The graphical Standards have been coordinated manually almost every friday. Is not that difficult after all.

Everything is working good, but still id like to warn you about some thinks that doesn't work 100%:

1. Grid Lines:
Sometimes you have 6 or 7 grid lines on the sections, some times you don't have any.
BUT we have discovered that if you want to see grid lines on your section viewpoint, and the grid lines are not in your workspace or in a hotlink, you have to set the Status of the section to Auto rebuild, it doesn't matter if you rebuild it manually, it doesn't work. Only auto rebuild works... and is not 100 % sure.

2. Layout books:
Updating Views from different PLP files that are 60mb (+) size its tricky sometimes. for floor plans details and worksheets works almost at 90%, but for general sections, you can wait for 1 hour to rebuild it and maybe an hour or 1 day to get it into the layout book. It is still a problem. That's why i would like to use PMK files again. This gives you the chance of recovering old versions of the project even in 2D.

3. Xref Layers:
To be honest, working with so many consultants and contractors... coordinating structure services, details, etc... you can't always be sure that some one will forget to remove those layers..... Once those layers are in your plp you are lost. you can not erase them. Right now we can count around 450 Xref layers and 220 Project related layers. What a mess.


Just to finalise this, I love this software, even that Revit 2009 has a very nice Rendering engine, Even that Is not popular as Autocad. But we need more Reliability....
R E L I A B I L I T Y.....

[Anonymous]

Dwight wrote:

Miki wrote:
we have a special 64 bit 8 core 167GB RAM machines for this project, .

Perhaps you just need more ram.

Ooops a daisies. Of course 16GB

Chadwick wrote:
Um, we do our projects entirely in Revit. 100%. Surgery centers, banks, office buildings, even a house!

Don't blame the software just because someone can fall back on ACAD. I know people who did this very thing in the last firm I worked in that used ArchiCAD. It has nothing do with the software and everything to do with the user. I've completed large projects in both. And on Windows Vista!

I blame the software for crashing, being slow etc. Like I mentioned at some level Revit become very unstable, and it is confirmed by Autodesk so there is nothing architect is doing wrong here. What is the size of your projects? How big is big for you? I'm talking about hospitals 600 000 sqft and 1.2 m. sqft. Do you use 64bit Vista? That was the solution for crashing in our case. Give it a 64 bit system and a lots of RAM. It did not solved a problem with being slow though.

[Petros Ioannou]

Soooo what was this topic about?


Oh, yes :

¿News about AC 12?

[Dwight]

just killing time until the real fun begins.

[Sam Wheatley]

I have no intentions of going over to the Revit side here, in fact it's good to hear Revit isn't running ahead of ArchiCad. My complaints with ArchiCad have to do with not being informed on upgrades (over due releases) in a timely manner (as many here agree), not having any sense of future development the program is taking, and not fixing many of the basic fundamental flaws and or short comings in past releases. I know, no software does everything for everyone. When most releases come out i find the improvements such that it is no longer desirable to resort back to previous releases, although many upgraded items were never on my wishlist of improvements. Being kept in the dark as to what is on the horizon with ArchiCad tends to lose my enthusiasm for the program. My strong belief in ArchiCad being the program of choice has lead to many sales in my area. In the past I felt far more informed and that the program development listened to the users, even then I felt listening to users wishes could and should be improved, is it just me? All said, I'm still a diehard user, although frustrated.