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[Anonymous]

I saw some documents to compare between Revit and AC.
I study Revit from own website.
It is just copy from AC!!

I used to work with AC (and very satisfied, and like many friends from AC-forum).
As AC-user I hope, AC must be better than Revit for Architects.

I have not used Revit, but just seen from Website.
The web-site from Revit is so nice, that I must believe, Revit should be better than AC.

I like to know your opinions and also opinions from GS.

Thanks

[Rick Thompson]

Scott, (anyone?).. I assume Revit is just like Graphisoft as a business, and you don't get any real idea what is being developed, even if you beta test, but I am hoping someone is working on a translator between the two, mainly AC to Revit. I frequently sell CAD files and just talked to someone wanting several, and they use Revit (and Microstation). The only way I know to send them is DXF (or that new one, DXG:), which is a crying shame to dumb them down so far. When I send out to Autocad, I send in hairlines and no fills (actually both ways, and with sheets.. so a total of 4 ways!!!.. now that's ridiculous).

So, sending to Revit, is is necessary to send hairlines and no fills, or are those issues handled by Revit better than Autocad handles them? Any feedback on building a translator that works best for Revit would be appreciated.

Scott, thanks for you participation, I have gained from your presence.

[Djordje]

Rick wrote:
Scott, (anyone?).. I assume Revit is just like Graphisoft as a business, and you don't get any real idea what is being developed, even if you beta test, but I am hoping someone is working on a translator between the two, mainly AC to Revit. I frequently sell CAD files and just talked to someone wanting several, and they use Revit (and Microstation). The only way I know to send them is DXF (or that new one, DXG:), which is a crying shame to dumb them down so far. When I send out to Autocad, I send in hairlines and no fills (actually both ways, and with sheets.. so a total of 4 ways!!!.. now that's ridiculous).

So, sending to Revit, is is necessary to send hairlines and no fills, or are those issues handled by Revit better than Autocad handles them? Any feedback on building a translator that works best for Revit would be appreciated.

Scott, thanks for you participation, I have gained from your presence.

IFC, Rick. Archicad has the fullest implementation until now, Scott will know better whether Revit can read 2.x?

In the Infomration sharing forum there are very encouraging reports on Archicad (new spelling as of 10 ...) models going to Revit structure. So there ...

[Anonymous]

I too think that scotts presence is positive for the forum. keeps everyone informed on what autodesk is doing.

to Rick T. -- you should download the Revit demo and try to import an IFC model saved from archicad. I ve this a couple of times (not extensively) and it seemed to work well. i think this only work with revit 9.

[Rick Thompson]

Thanks Djordje, and JNT.. thanks but I am on a Mac so I don't have that option. I think the current person needing Revit files will be interested in experimenting.. I assume... as he is an architect and will be making changes to the files.

I think I need to do some homework:)

[Scott Davis]

Haven't tried much with IFC yet, but this is from the Revit 9.0 help file:

Revit Building provides Industry Foundation Classes (IFC) import and fully certified export based on the latest International Alliance for Interoperability (IAI) IFC 2x2 data exchange standard.

My understanding is IFC 2x2 is the most recent, although 2x3 is in development but no software "supports" it yet? Is that correct?

Actually, I wouldn't mind testings some things...anyone have a simple Archicad "object" that could be exported to IFC that I could import? (door, window, chair, maybe?)

[Anonymous]

Actually I use never IFC, because it is in a moment not necessary.
But the update to 2.2 from 2.2 with AC is very simple.
But
I have good feeling to make 3D by myself, not changed by my electrical engineer...

[Anonymous]

samsung wrote:
One reason, if I switch to Revit, would be because of DXG-exchange (not because of Scott )

Assuming that you talk about DWG, you have better to ask deeply your Re*it reseller.
The one I asked redirected me to the closest Autocad guru, which sent 2 pages of explanation to me (6 month ago, might have changed).
If you ask for almost perfect conversion, it is about pen's colours and weight, long text length, fill background and so on. I did not see anything simpler than in AC. Don’t believe advertising.

[Anonymous]

Philippe wrote:
The one I asked redirected me to the closest Autocad guru, which sent 2 pages of explanation to me (6 month ago, might have changed).
If you ask for almost perfect conversion, it is about pen's colours and weight, long text length, fill background and so on. I did not see anything simpler than in AC. Don’t believe advertising.

It shows, that Revit and AutoCAD are not really together.
It is every time big issue about data exchange between AutoCAD and other CAAD programms.
I think, Project Reviewer can be big chance or nice alternative to DWG or DXF.

[Anonymous]

Project reviewer is a program to review your project, it is not a DWG's competition because it is based on DWF files. I think though that industry need some open format (like IFC for architecture) to exchange CAD data.

[Anonymous]

M&E engineer ask better to send project reviewer.
They know to save time and money.
Of course you can plott or send DWG as final (or such like).
But to check and to discuss in a distance PR is quite ok, and very fast.
Also you can print it, and better you can save this document as Marker.