Trapezoidal Wall
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‎2009-09-24 04:06 PM - last edited on ‎2023-05-25 05:48 PM by Rubia Torres
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‎2009-09-25 12:23 AM
Use a mixture of
Then ungroup the Walls. Make the middle Wall straight. Drag both the two Side Walls in towards the Middle Wall and stop when the Side Walls are 1mm long, and therfore almost invisible....(OK, I admit a little cheating here)
Then you have a straight Wall with sloped sides, a "conic" Wall.
(All free stuff from my soon-to-come books on ArchiCAD)
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‎2009-09-25 01:50 AM
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‎2009-09-25 03:57 AM
My attempt at humour (sorry)
As you want to taper the wall along it's length you would probably want to add a roof plane at the angle required and then either Trim To Roof or use a Solid Element Operation to cut away the part you don't want.
If you use TTR then you can delete the roof plane but any amendments will have to be untrimmed and then re-trimmed.
If you use SEO then just hide the roof in a layer that is never shown.
Then if amendments are needed you can just move the roof around.
Either way the plan representation will not be correct as TTR and SEO do not affect the plan view.
Another way would be to creat a complex profile in the shape you want to see in elevation and then make the wall just 200mm long.
You will get a true representation in plan this way if you use the Projected With Overhead setting for the wall.
However you will not be able to place doors and windows as the wall will be drawn sideways (along its width and not its length).
I would got for one of the first methods and simply add a white solid fill to the various floor plans to hide the various lengths of wall that should not be shown.
Barry.
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‎2009-09-25 04:34 AM
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‎2009-09-25 05:29 AM
Karl
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‎2009-09-25 07:15 AM
A lot of creativity on this Forum, I must say!
The original question is good and addresses a weakness in ArchiCAD. This is one of the few instances that Revit surpasses ArchiCAD (along with dimensioning). In ArchiCAD we shold be able to make a Wall excectly the way we want it - in an Elevation. Draw the wall as a Free Form in the Elevation Window with the Line Tool and transform it to a Wall with the Magic Wand... But that is unfortunately not possible.... yet.
And while I am on to ArchiCADs potential. It should be possible to copy (not just move) elements and objects in Section/Elevation.
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‎2009-09-26 03:10 AM
I like that. Sounds like a Super Hero to the rescue.
Hello Ingolf,
who wrote:"Free Form in the Elevation Window with the Line Tool and transform it to a Wall with the Magic Wand..."
That would be great!
However until then, since I had not seen the "conic" wall trick before, I tried it out, with a slight modification of plumbing (Latin: plumbum) up the outside walls with a little SEO action using 4' diam columns.
Then had a hell of a time trying to add my C.P. of Vrustic wall to the lower slanted section.
As you can see I sort of got it, but can't get walls to join properly, especially [1].
When I try some joining, pieces of conic wall start disappearing.
Have faked it a bit and could do more fakery if I had the time, or it was a real client.
Is there a way to join this screwball walls easily that I don't understand?
Or is fakery the the best trick?
And by the way, Thank you very much Ingolf!
lec
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‎2009-09-26 09:28 AM
What an unusual customer! This resembles a boat? Tell us more about your exciting assignment and the need for slanted walls on the sides of the house (cottage?) and just 1 meter up.
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‎2009-09-26 03:51 PM
Reading your message once more I see that you don't have any client...OK...but a fantasy project still gives food for thought!
If you use my recipe earlier in this thread, you will see that the use of
Then choose the Complex Wall and draw it in an U-shape.
Ungroup
Make the middle Wall a straight Wall with a thickness of for instance 200mm
Place Door and Window.
Good luck!
PS: SOE doesn't work very well in an IFC model ...just so that you know to use SOE with modesty...
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